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Clitoracy: A Journey Through Pleasure’s Hidden History

Chrystal & Merf Season 3 Episode 13

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Discover the secrets and mysteries of female anatomy that will make you question everything you thought you knew. Prepare for a mix of humor and enlightenment as we kick off with a bizarre tale of a book club member with two vaginas, leading us into a fascinating discussion about the clitoris and its complex history. From Matteo Columbo’s supposed "discovery" in 1559 to the ancient understanding of this unique organ, we unravel the misconceptions and the ongoing societal struggle to properly recognize female pleasure. You'll laugh, you'll learn, and you might just find yourself amazed by how society's understanding of the clitoris has evolved—alongside some truly historical mishaps.

Explore the elaborate structure of the clitoris that goes way beyond what meets the eye. We dive into the hidden anatomy, including the clitoral legs and the myriad of sensations they can provide. Whether it's through a tender touch or the modern wonders of suction-based toys, we celebrate the amazing diversity of pleasure experiences. We also share insights into how the clitoris continues to grow as we age, transforming the narrative around aging and pleasure into something positive and empowering. Join us as we emphasize the importance of clitoral awareness and how understanding personal preferences can enhance your sexual health.

Finally, let’s break the taboo around female sexuality and empowerment. From the historical suppression of female pleasure to the inspiring rise of women in the sex toy industry, we're on a mission to promote body-positive and inclusive conversations. Get ready to explore erogenous zones like the A-spot, G-spot, and C-spot, and discover techniques that can elevate your intimate experiences. We reflect on today's learnings and encourage you to reach out with your questions and feedback. Join us in our quest to create an understanding community where everyone is comfortable exploring their own anatomy and pleasure.

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Speaker 1:

Hi, welcome to Big Sexy Chat. I'm Crystal, I'm Murph. We're just two rad fatties sitting around chewing the fat Twice a month. We'll be chatting about current events, hot topics, sex, sex toys, fat politics, fat community, cannabis, cbd you name it. We're going to talk about it. We are very excited to have you a part of our community. Welcome and enjoy.

Speaker 2:

Hi y'all. Welcome back to Big Sexy Chat. This is Crystal. Hi, I'm Murph and we have an extra special episode today. We're doing something a little bit different. Tell them what we're going to talk about today, murph.

Speaker 3:

We're talking all things. Clitoris, yay, most important thing ever.

Speaker 2:

Waste to me. Yes, oh man, that's the way I get out of bed in the morning. Yes, absolutely Best part of my body. So, yeah, clitoris, we're going to talk about clitoris C. How clitoris literate are you, and I know I've done a lot of research this last week and I've learned a few new things, and I'm sure you have learned a few new things too, Irv. But if it's okay, I want to start you guys off with a little funny story.

Speaker 2:

I may have told this on the air before, I can't remember, but I used to be part of a book club and this book club we were meeting outdoors at this restaurant and one of our friends brought a new girl to come to book club. So we all had our food already and they didn't have their food yet. So this new girl standing there we'll just call her Kim, this new girl standing there, and the other girl goes hey, Kim, since you don't have your food, why don't you introduce yourself? She goes oh, sure, sure, sure, Hi, all my name is Kim and I was born with two vaginas. Okay, so we're on a patio of a bunch of people sitting around, we're all looking at her and she's actually a very timid and very shy person and immediately my brain went to do you have two clitorises? She'll know I'm like okay, whatever we care, dang it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, now it's not interesting, not at all.

Speaker 2:

But I'm like I want to see it one day, but she's really timid and shy so I never it you can. There's all kinds of google information out there. It's called uterus. Diddle a fee, diddle a fee. I'm like diddle a fee, diddle. But the cutest part is that this woman's husband used to call her vagina his, um, his lover and his mistress, or his wife and his mistress, because there were two places and she had two, everything, two uterus, two, two sets of every single thing that you can imagine that has to do with reproductive stuff.

Speaker 2:

If you are um born female, that just sounds awful to me.

Speaker 3:

sued, I'm just thinking of how much problems I have with my reproductive everything and the idea of having two like two sets of ovaries, two uteruserine, no.

Speaker 2:

Do you know she went through about I think it's either 11 or 13, I can't remember now miscarriages between her first son and her last son.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's awful, I know, I'm sure.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, it's not about the clitoris, so we won't go on. Yeah, it's not as interesting to me. Of course, there's lots of nerve endings in the vagina, but where do you want to start us off, merth?

Speaker 3:

Well, I think we need to talk about who discovered the clitoris. Please tell me it was a woman. Nope, nope, but I did think the name was kind of interesting. Basically, they're saying that in Western civilization this Italian doctor named Matteo Columbo, back in 1559, found it, which I think is kind of funny, like Columbo, like that old detective show from back in the day. But actually they say that really they knew about the clitoris back in 400 BC and so, while they didn't have a name for it, they did talk about how the organ really did predate Western civilization, claiming it.

Speaker 2:

Wow. So when there was that hysteria word thrown around a lot, this is because women were discovering their clitoris. I think that was in the 30s right, the hysteria.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think there was a bit of it, even before the hysteria Sorry, the 30s Because they had those doctors that were doing all kinds of stuff in like the early 1900s that like you could go and get it massaged yes, please, yeah. Where do I sign it? I don't know. Get it massaged, yes, please, yeah, where do I sign it? I know they had opium to deal with all their pain and then doctor like jerked you off, like I mean how much does that cost like I got?

Speaker 3:

you and they'd give you a lobotomy if nothing was working. Like yeah man, they used to call um mama.

Speaker 2:

Value mama's little helper. No, I didn't know that, but I think they should call vibr mama's little helper.

Speaker 3:

No, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2:

But I think they should call vibrators mama's little helper, yeah, or big helper, depending on the toy. Exactly Wow, so a guy. That's interesting, since a lot of people who are assigned female at birth often say that their partners typically male partners can't find their clitoris on their bodies or don't seem to stimulate it in the right way, and I don't know. And then a man found it. That's crazy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah Well, they only used to allow men to be doctors. True true, they need to claim everything.

Speaker 2:

That's true, you know, I was reading something really funny and it was talking about how you know, some animals, you know, have clitorises or whatever. But there was like a sentence that said, yeah, but we don't know, we don't know much about it yet because not not a lot of money and time has been spent studying it. I was like same, yeah, females too, female humans, uh, yeah, not surprised there's not much data for animal clitoris.

Speaker 2:

But hey, one thing I know about the clitoris it only has one purpose. One purpose. Nothing else does not. Nothing else, nothing else, but to give you pleasure and possibly have an orgasm. That's right.

Speaker 3:

That's right, the only organ specifically designed for sexual pleasure. Yep, and so, yeah, yeah, go ahead. There are 8,000 nerve endings just in the tip alone. Hell yeah, that's lovely. Super, super, super sensitive, the tip alone. Hell yeah, that's lovely. So it's super, super, super sensitive, More so than any other area. There's a dense level of nerves that are just right there.

Speaker 2:

I've heard it might be even more than that, but when they've done the dissection or you know, they look at cadavers. In the past they were mostly looking at animal cadavers and looking at their clitorises clitori and a lot of the research was done around some horses that they were studying Weirdest thing I know. But I only know this because I know a lot of people that are in the sex toy business and so I've heard this story. They're like oh yeah, there's probably even more than 10,000. Nobody really knows yet because they've only studied horses. Claire, okay, that's right, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Wow, and you know really that the whole area is just a mixture of erectile tissue? And muscles and nerves and so, like you said, you know, there's really an opportunity there to find out if there's even more, Like when we were talking to Kim Ayers about the sponge you know, like is that all considered that area? Because, like you are going to go into here in a little bit, there's some interesting anatomy to the clitoris that a lot of people probably don't even realize.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for sure. I always describe that view that we see, that image that we always see, you know, kind of looks like a wishbone, like if you had a turkey and you took the wishbone out. It kind of looks like that right to you. Yep, sure does, isn't it interesting how analogous it is to the penis as well. Very similar, very similar, interesting. But yeah, we all started out female, right? I think we've pointed this out on this podcast a few times. But then that the um, the spongy material, right, the erectile tissue, goes in two different directions depending on I don't know how to say it depending on if you're going to be born or assigned female or male at birth. Is that the right way to say that?

Speaker 3:

I think so. Yeah, like it's how it develops depending on that chromosome right.

Speaker 2:

And then you can also think of the clitoris as just like a small penis, the tiny penis, the little glands, just like the penis has. Yeah, I love the glands and you know they all come in different sizes and shapes, just like penises. So there's a lot of things that they have in common.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, absolutely I think, more than a lot of people even realize.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely I think more than a lot of people even realize?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, for sure. So you kind of mentioned, you know that, that, how it develops. But one thing that I think a lot of people don't really realize is just that the clit is really just the tip of the iceberg, right. Like, talk a little bit about just kind of the specifics of how that develops and where it's at.

Speaker 2:

So the clitoris can be anywhere between two and a half to three and a half four inches long, but we don't see most of it outside of the body. Most of it is sort of buried inside of the body and the word I learned about 10 years ago is something called clitoral legs. So basically from the glands like into the wishbone shape. Those little legs stems kind of go out down the side of each side of your labia and then spreads like little nerves, little networks, all over your vaginal entrance, your anus, your inner labia, outer labia and your clitoris, oh, and also inside too. So your G-spot and your A-spot are both also tied to the clitoris.

Speaker 2:

So it's very important, very important to me anyway, and there is starting to be a little bit more research. But yeah, we know now about the clitoral network which is just all over the place and that's why it can feel good from fingering. It can feel really good because at the opening there's a lot of nerve endings there. Some people like their cervix bumped that's called the A-spot and there's a lot of clitoral legs back there. They're everywhere, they're everywhere.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I've legs back there. It's, they're just, they're everywhere, they're everywhere. Yeah, I've even seen that they're saying like it can spread into your thighs. Yes, like the nerve endings.

Speaker 2:

That's, that's really interesting yes, please, I've tried that.

Speaker 3:

I'll try it all well and it makes sense to like when we're talking about. You know the stimulation that um receive when you know they're having sex or any kind of foreplay with the clitoris. It's, you know, squeezing the labia. You know you're really squeezing that tissue that's around it. It can swell up to 300% when it's engorged.

Speaker 2:

Love it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and they say that no two vaginas, no two vulvas ever look the same. They're just like little snowflakes, right, they're all unique and individual. And then we all get a different set of that erectile sponge Some people for myself, I know I have a little bit more on the upper right side of my clitoris upper left side of my clitoris, whatever. But I know where I like it, it's the right side of my clitoris. Yeah, whatever, but I know where I like it, it's the right side of my clitoris. So I'm assuming that my body, the way it was designed, was more of that erectile tissue ended up on the right side of my clitoris and they're all over, but the top left side not so much for me yeah, I, I've found that with um, those new toys that we got from um womanizer, that um, it really the sucking vibration, you know whole pattern that you get in yeah, it really um stimulates the sponge for me, and that's when I squirt.

Speaker 3:

Yep, because, I don't even have to have like that g-spot stimulation me too yeah, that amazing.

Speaker 2:

I love it. I love it a lot. Oh, and then you were talking about, um, the labia having the clitoral legs. That's very true, but also some people like grinding and tugging, so that can get people very excited. All of these clitoral legs, wherever they are, they're going to be involved in your lubricating. So, wherever they are, wherever you want to touch them or have someone else touch them, that's all going to help everything to get more lubricated yeah, and I learned one interesting fact too, um, just about how, how it grows, how it builds.

Speaker 3:

It's the only part of your body that never ages shut up. I didn't know that. Yeah, oh yeah, it keeps growing. So basically, um, it could be like 2.5 times as big in your 90s as it was like when you were a teenager.

Speaker 2:

See, there are reasons to look forward to getting older. Okay, that's one of them.

Speaker 3:

Your clit gets bigger y'all.

Speaker 2:

Don't your ears get bigger all the time too? Yeah, I think so. Oh my gosh, I'm just thinking of my grandmother's ears now. They were so long. Oh my gosh, I'm just thinking of my grandmother's ears now. They were so long. She like danced in the carnival when she was young and they made her wear those big, heavy clip-on earrings, so it made her ears super long. But maybe it was also because they kept growing, just like her clitoris. Yep, grandma Ruth, that's fantastic.

Speaker 3:

So, yeah, I like those toys that provide the suction and the vibration To me. That's like always what I'm trying to get to. I always want that and it's really, it's really common for a lot of um folks that have clitoris, um, and basically, if you don't have internal stimulation that creates an orgasm, that's not uncommon-to.

Speaker 2:

If I just need to knock one out, bam done One and done, yeah, but if I have more time to be creative and I have a partner that's into it, we can definitely find some other ways. But again, it's always going to be attached to my clitoral legs. That's including the pleasure that you have around your anus. We have hundreds of nerve endings there and it can feel really good too, and for some people it can create an orgasm. But even if it's from your anus, they're saying, it still all comes from your clitoris. So, however it waterfalls down all over around the area, it's all your clitoris is involved in some way or another, even if you're not touching it you're not touching it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they say 50 to 75% of women need to have clitoral stimulation to achieve orgasm.

Speaker 2:

Why do people born with a penis or who have a penis, why do they think that's all about the penetration? I mean I think I know Right, I mean you would think it's talked about enough and people like make jokes about it enough that the clitoris is the most important part for most of us. So just let's err on the side of us using it and not ignoring it. Don't just stick it in.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well, yeah, I think we run into the issues of you know, women's bodies haven't been studied. They're shamed when women are supposed to have pleasure, you know.

Speaker 3:

so there's so much other stuff around it that you know, I think a lot of people, especially men, but I think a lot of people think that you know, there's like one hole you know, that this is all like attached in one spot, you know, and so I think there's a lot of education, there's a lot of destigmatizing and just really exploration that needs to happen for a lot of education. There's a lot of destigmatizing and just really exploration that needs to happen for a lot of people.

Speaker 2:

I mean the more attention I get before the whole shebang, the bit more intense my orgasm is going to be. So it's really to my lover's advantage to really make sure they're taking care of everything before we just stick it in, to really make sure they're taking care of everything before we just stick it in, right?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think that you know each person's. Obviously every clit's different and every vagina is different and you know, really understanding that you've got to spend some time exploring that with your partner and stimulating that in different ways, because there's different sensitivity to every different shape and size.

Speaker 3:

And if we don't spend the time getting to know our own bodies, especially, how are you going to be able to explain to your partners that this is the way I like to be stimulated? This is what you know. Does it for me, like you said to the left, you know, like I don't get a lot of nerve endings, or you know it's that plays a big part. So it's it's important for us to know about our own self-pleasure, to be able to indicate that to our partner.

Speaker 2:

Too bad. There's so much shame involved with masturbation but I won't go into that just yet. But do you know what the percentage of it that they suggest for people who can't have an orgasm from just stimulating the vaginal canal, or have a vaginal orgasm as opposed to?

Speaker 3:

I don't. I just know that it's a low number. Do you know?

Speaker 2:

No, I know it's a pretty low number too. It's definitely possible, but I think, because of porn or movies or books or lack of education, men think it's all about the sticking it in part, which I love, but there's so much more important around that area. So don't just jam it in there. Take some time and um, I guess that's what they see on television or the movie. So I think that's what, or porn, that's what they're supposed to do, right, just jam it in there and go to town.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's unfortunate and you know, if that's the only thing is seen as quote, unquote, sex you know, our society, um, is the insertion?

Speaker 3:

you know, I mean, how many people are like, oh, you know, in our society, is the insertion, you know, I mean, how many people are like, oh well, you know you're not a virgin unless you've had insertion. Don't barf. You know I hate that word, I know it's like it's just ridiculous, but it's like that's the point is, you know, there's been so much. I mean, we can go into even further detail of history, but I mean no-transcript there's a couple different people that have blamed Freud.

Speaker 3:

Sigmund Freud, the idea of a woman has to have stimulation by a penis to have orgasm, so it's like that was what the people were trained on back then, that's when they used to call women frigid.

Speaker 2:

right, yes, stupid, yeah. So I have another little story to share. When I had my store, a woman came into my store and she was I'm going to guess like 60-ish, and she told me she was Catholic and Hispanic and or Latina. And so she said my doctor sent me here to my store where I sell lubricant and sex toys. And she said I'm exercising like two or three times a day. I just lost my husband. I have all this energy I don't know what to do with. We had a great sex life and all I can do is just walk on the treadmill. I don't know what to do with my sexual energy. And he said you would have some ideas. Oh girl, yeah, on the spot.

Speaker 2:

For whatever reason, my head just went to religious. Okay, you're a designer. Whoever you believe designed you, created you, they gave, they gave you something that only gives you pleasure. It does nothing else. I'm not a religious person, but I'm assuming, I'm going to assume, that that designer designer, they wanted you to use it.

Speaker 2:

It's so good for your mental health, gives you endorphins and dopamine, and I can't imagine that your designer was like hey, I'm gonna put this here and you're gonna have to touch it almost every time you pee, but don't do anything with it. You know no way. So why? What's the shame in it? So I said I sent her home with some lubricant and a bullet and I said you know, just, this is pretty much a guarantee if you get it closer on top of your clitoris, you're gonna have a climax. And she came back a couple months later and she thanked me. She was very embarrassed, you know. I mean I didn't even show her the embarrassing toys, I just showed her the more polite toys because I didn't want to scare her. But she missed her husband, obviously, and she missed their sex life and their intimacy. But she didn't really know how to have an orgasm on her own because she was told it's disgusting to touch your clitoris. How can that ever be disgusting it body.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I know, when you think back to the history of the body and well, the female body, it really there's not. It's not a good history around the clitoris. I mean, there were doctors that advocated its removal because they said it would cure mental illness. Oh well, you have schizophrenia because you have this pesky desire, you know, because of this organ, so we're going to cut it out, like there's certain cultures where that's like, seen as you know, the, you've reached an age now and we're going to remove your clitoris.

Speaker 3:

You've reached an age now and we're going to remove your clitoris, they used to refer to women as witches and that I've read something where it was like they called it like the devil's teat. It is it totally is though. Yeah, and they were like basically like the devil, like would suck your soul out of it, Like they created all these really ridiculous stories and fables about this organ.

Speaker 2:

Because I think it's honestly, if you really think about how powerful women asserting their own sexuality is, it would have changed the course of our entire culture, for sure, there are a lot better attitudes about the clitoris, but also, even in 2024, a lot of fear of very strong women, very powerful women. And yeah, first of all, if someone removed my clitoris, I'd rather die. I don't want to stay alive, I just don't. I don't, no, I can't, I have to have it, but I know in certain countries.

Speaker 2:

they're still doing that to their young girls, right yeah, they are Terrible.

Speaker 3:

It's just disgusting. I know there's been a lot of different, different advocacy groups that are really trying to change that and I think it's. I think it's decreased, but it's still happening. But you know, when they think you're a witch because you've, you've got a clitoris, you know it's. We're not that far away from when they used to burn us at the stake. So, um, you know, it's not surprising that there's still a lot of misinformation and not a lot of importance placed on self-pleasure. Yeah, it's too bad.

Speaker 2:

But you know, I don't know about you, but whenever I've had sex with a man I never, ever, ever, ever, ever worry about their orgasm, because we know they practice all the time, and I do mean all of the time. Most men just try to do it at least once a day, maybe more if they're younger or even older but women don't practice that often, so you know they build up that muscle memory in their bodies.

Speaker 2:

We don't, and so they're encouraged. They all joke about it. Do you ever hear women joking about the last time they rubbed one out? Not usually my best friends, maybe my super close friends, but not just of the group of women at dinner.

Speaker 3:

Right, because you're clit.

Speaker 2:

Would you have fluffier labia or smaller labia? Does your inner labia hang down below your outer labia? We don't talk about those things. Usually, even in the most I mean open-minded groups, we don't really talk about that stuff. Some of my friends get really embarrassed by it and other of my friends are just like, yeah, but it's still really kept secret.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3:

It's really seen as that women or anyone that's seen as feminine honestly it should be hiding their sexuality and it's so incongruent with the concept of that's what the quote-unquote other sex wants, you know, is just to like, use women and not spend the time to like understand their clitoris. And how many times have you heard comedians talk about like? Oh well, you know it's so hard to get a woman to orgasm, and blah, blah. It's like, yeah, because we don't have to just insert something. Nope, there's more work to it than just, you know, something very, very rudimentary.

Speaker 2:

Do you remember when they make dildos and all they look like was like a big rocket ship?

Speaker 2:

And it has the two double D batteries and the vibration was down by the dial as far away from your clitoris as possible and not in the tip Right. Who created that toy? Thank God, allah, buddha, whoever a lot of women moved into the industry for sex toys about 30 years ago, and two things women have done made sure that the materials that we put inside of our vagina and on top of our clitoris and on our labia are body safe and they vibrate in the right place where it's going to get the most out of us. It took so long. It was mostly a male-dominated industry and if they think it's all just about jamming it in there, then they're going to make a toy for jamming it in there. If you can't see me right now, I'm kind of doing stabbing motion with my hand. It's jamming in there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah Well, I think that's one of the things where, when we talk about female pleasure, like it's a little bit of pinching and tugging and little concentrated circles and tapping, there's a lot more to it than just plain old insertion.

Speaker 3:

You know, there's a lot of different, variable movements, you know, and it sometimes it's you want something pressed against it, like grinding against a pillow or a soft object, or there's different ways to stimulate it and I think, not doing the work and learning about it the way that we were supposed to. You know the way the time that has been spent on penises, which is sucky because they call it a tiny penis, so it's like well, come on, like right, you know, you guys talkrate and buzz and just all the different sensations that come from it, because the standard just I'm going to insert something internally doesn't always do, you know, doesn't always do it when you're talking about where things are located, it may be pleasurable but it's not going to be concentrated. And so, having people that really spent some time looking at this and how would I want this? And you're right, having body safe materials there's a lot of things that have had to change in this industry to provide toys that really make a difference.

Speaker 2:

Your vagina is a mucous membrane. It'd just be like putting something dangerous in your mouth. Why would you put some petroleum product in your mouth? We know there's carcinogen possibilities, but we were putting them in our vaginas for years or against our clitoris.

Speaker 3:

Terrible, yeah, I mean that led to UTIs, to bacterial infections, all sorts of things. You know it's a very, very sensitive area and so you got to worry about things like little tears and sometimes you know if you are having penetrative sex or you are rubbing against something like you can create the. You know the area around it can get inflamed, you can. You know skin problems that come from that and then you know if it becomes itchy, then that leads to things. There's so many. It kind of can spiral really quickly. Yeah, um, that area is moist. I know a lot of people hate that you love it.

Speaker 3:

Moist, moist, moist, moist, moist uh, you know it's, it's uh it doesn't usually get a lot of sunshine, you know, so it's very prone to being able to be infected or harmed, and so you got to be really, really gentle and make sure that you know whatever stimulation you're providing is something that feels good and you're not just suffering through or, you know, doing something that doesn't feel pleasurable to you 100%.

Speaker 2:

You know what my wish for the world is. My wish for the world is that everybody, whoever's your lover, recognizes that vibrators do all the heavy lifting for them. They do all the work and, especially if you just want to get us warmed up, love a toy that's swell enough to be able to be between the two of you as well.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think you know, if you have a partner that is confident in their ability, the toys that are made on the market, now there's nothing that can compare in a human capacity to making those things happen. Now, granted, I'm not saying like, oh, you know, your partner can't make you come the way a vibrator does. I think there's different types of orgasms and you know there's different types of releases, but having something so concentrated and that can do like six things at one time makes a big difference and no human is going to be able to do those types of things. So, like you said, utilizing that to you know, women can have multiple orgasms, so you can let her have one.

Speaker 3:

She gets all wet and lubed up. Next part of the play happens Begging, begging.

Speaker 2:

Begging, yeah, but I have a little clitoris. I mean a little orgasm. Then when we start begging for other stuff, Exactly, so you can use it as a.

Speaker 3:

I just had a really fancy dinner last night and the guy came out and he said, oh, the chef has prepared an amuse-bouche. And I was like, yeah, I love that word, so that's what it could be. You know, if you can play with that little vibrator and get some stuff going, that's the little amuse-bouche to the rest of the meal.

Speaker 2:

Do you like using it between you and your partner, your husband?

Speaker 3:

I do like those types of toys. I don't find that I've found anything that directly fits the way that I want it to, and I think that's something where we've talked about previously when we were talking about, you know, sex toys for fat people. I just have more flesh and so, unless it's a tiny, tiny little bullet that I put directly on it and I don't usually like that kind of stimulation because it's so buzzy rather than like deep Rumbly, yeah, rumbly. So yeah, I mean I enjoy those, I have fun with those, but just I don't have it the same way that the other ones do. But I love insertion, penetration with clit stimulation at the same time. Yep, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It feels wonderful, and that's like I love all my toys too, but it's not warm, like my man Can't kiss me, like my man Can't give me a massage. It's wonderful, but it's not better than, it's just different, and it's also going to do all the heavy lifting for him. So it's like bam. And then also I probably told you this a million times but my rule is me, then you, then you me again.

Speaker 3:

I love that it's best for everybody too. I found that once I get going on that womanizer toy, it's like I'm so exhausted afterwards Cause I've like screamed the house down and all the things that I'm just like okay, well, I've like come for five minutes now, Yep.

Speaker 2:

Do you want to talk a little bit about the G spot and the A spot? Yeah, I love them both.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely. I used to tell us about them, cause a lot of people probably don't know what the A-spot is. I'm sure they've heard G-spot Right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was actually talking with a client my hair removal client, excuse me and I mentioned the A-spot to her, and she's a swinger. They go to all kinds of parties and they have sex with all kinds of people and she's like there's something called the A-spot, something called the a spot. Yeah, oh, my gosh, because you're gonna give me homework today, I go, yeah, go go work, go look it up, basically, google it. The a, uh, yeah, google it. The a spot is closer to your cervix and it's, I think a is for like anterior fornix or anterior anterior, so meaning it's on the belly button side of your, uh, vagina, vaginal wall.

Speaker 2:

Um, had a hysterectomy radical hysterectomy in 2020, and they took my cervix. So I don't get as much pleasure as I used to from having that A-spot bump they call it or cervix bumping. It decreased. But I've got other spots. I've got the G-spot and the C-spot, the clitoral spot. So that's all working for me really well still. But, um, yeah, some people, you can differentiate from the two. If you spend some time and your lover helps you, spend some time to find both, set, both spots. To me, that a spot feels a little more. Um, slimy is a terrible word, but not as like the. To me the g spot feels kind of like a water chestnut the texture.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the A-spot's a little more slippery. How about slippery, that's better.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, not slimy Around. What size would?

Speaker 2:

you say is the A-spot? I'm going to say like a nickel, and usually it's about five inches in closer to your throat. Because your vaginal canal naturally is just not excited. It's just about five inches long, right, but it can stretch, yeah A lot, and we've learned that it can.

Speaker 3:

You know, the clitoris can grow 300%, so I'm sure there's a certain percentage that the vaginal walls can expand and do all that too. I just don't know the number.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I guess the friction is also what feels good against the A spot and the same with the G-spot, although so the G-spot's a little closer to your vaginal opening and usually they say to about your second knuckle is about where the G-spot should be. Some people have a way. Bigger G-spot orgasm Doesn't mean every single person will, but if you know where it is and you're able to find it, or your partner's able to find it, then that kind of helps you, especially if you can do. I like the G-spot and clitters at the same time. Chef's kiss, it's the best, and yeah, but just like about two knuckles in and then just kind of towards the belly button and then you kind of feel it. If you feel it with your finger, it feels like the roof of your mouth, maybe like where those ridges are, or I would say water chest.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, it does have protrude a little bit.

Speaker 1:

So I think of like the roundness of the water chest.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, the two fingers in or the finger in. What you couldn't see if you're listening to this is Crystal is doing a come hither motion.

Speaker 2:

And so if you're like telling someone to come here, that's the sort of motion you want to do to stimulate the G-spot yeah, some toys are made to hit their G-spot as well, absolutely yeah, and they make toys that do the G-spot and the cl clitoris? At the same time, I don't want to take it uss, uh, the uss enterprise that we always talk about.

Speaker 3:

Yes, that's not the name of it. Y'all listen to that episode.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to take us off this topic too much. But I just saw a new sex toy I've never seen before. It looks just like a thumb and it's designed for people who want to have that thumb pressure on their butthole when they're having sex, doggy style. So okay, their thumb there. They put the thumb toy there. You know, I was like, oh, that's cool, I've never seen for anyway I don't want to take us off the g-spot. You're a g-spot person. You like your g-spot simulated?

Speaker 3:

yeah I do. Yeah, I do, I really do. I think that I like the sensation because it just feels I don't know, I think maybe like heavy, you know, when there's pressing or stimulation of it, it just feels like it's like more dense. I don't know how.

Speaker 2:

It's the other way to really explain it it's super close to your bladder so you might feel you might be having sensations from that area as well. I mean, have you ever peed and almost felt like it was orgasmic? Pretty much.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So it's all really close to there, so you kind of get that full sensation or like a pressure sensation. It's definitely got a lot of different feelings to me and it feels wonderful.

Speaker 3:

But I'm to me and it feels wonderful, but I'm the bigger fan of the c spot the clitoris. Yeah, yeah it. That's like numero uno, fast pass, lightning pass, whatever, like you want to get there. That's that's pretty much yes, yeah can't I, I will.

Speaker 2:

It's involved in everything. Like we said, it's good, it's gonna the legs go, the network goes all around the g spot, the a spot, the, the anus all over.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and one of the things that I thought was interesting was terminology for it, back to the 17th century. It came basically from words like sheath, key, latch, or to touch or tickle. That's how they basically developed the word clitoris no-transcript.

Speaker 3:

So are there any other? Is there any other information we want to share with our listeners, who are learning all about their clitoracy and our clitoracy? I think you know, start doing your research online and learn about it and then spend some time, maybe with a mirror. If you have a clitoris, or if you have a partner that you know wants to be involved in that process the two of you so that you can see it and look at it. And we talked about how they're different shapes and sizes. You know it's good to know like what it looks like, how big is it, and then you know how you'd like to be touched. So then you like play with it, start looking at like different pressures and sensations and things that you can incorporate into determining what feels best, because it's different for every person.

Speaker 3:

Yes, we talked a lot about how there are some very specific things that are universal to folks that have clitoroids. Is that what the plural of it was Clitori clitorises. Yeah, so you know, I think it's just really important that you spend time learning about yours and if you don't have one, it's really important for you to also spend some time learning about all the things around it and how to give your partner pleasure with it.

Speaker 2:

It just makes your life so much easier if you just do a little research.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we live in the age and era of. If you're saying I don't know anything about that, well then that's on you, because there is a nifty little device that you walk around with all day long and have attached to your hip that will give you all that information.

Speaker 2:

Before we wrap it up, I want to bring up one more thing. We talked about this before and I think we even issued a challenge where we said go out people with a clitoris and go and masturbate 21 days in a row. For a lot of different reasons I was suggesting. The first reason was to help you fall in love with your body, because when we're fat, we're often outside of our body. Massaging or using our clitoris puts us more back into our bodies and it doesn't matter how fat you are. Everybody can work it out. Where there's a will, there's a way. We know that. And um, yeah, if you do it 21 days in a row, besides the dopamine, endorphins and all that good stuff, it might also help you fall in love with you and all the all the pleasure your body can create. So I just want to end with that before we talk about how people can find us 21 days 21 days in a row take the challenge every day hey, that one lady, britney gibbons.

Speaker 2:

She had sex every day of the week with her husband for like a month or a year.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, oh, part of my mental health journey. Right now I have a little thing on my phone that reminds me to do something, do something for 15 minutes, like just something different. So you can put a little reminder on your phone that says masturbate. Hey, man, if you really want to get therapeutic with it, write down your like, how you felt, or what score you gave it after each time, and then look at the patterns afterwards, see if you noticed a difference. You should notice just in general a difference. But when you see, like I had an eight, I had a seven, I had a, oh, that one was a 10. You know, like then you can be like well, on the days that it was a 10, it was direct clit stimulation. So you have a lot, a lot of research.

Speaker 2:

you could do there Suggestion if in the shower nobody has to know, your kids don't have to know you could just take care of, take your business in there. It's and it's a wonderful climax. Get it Well. Thanks for that was a lot of fun. I'm glad. I feel like I learned a lot today and I am sure our listeners are going to think if they have more questions, we would love to hear from them too, and they can email us at bigsexychatpod at gmailcom. And then what else should we share with them, marth?

Speaker 3:

Well, we'd really appreciate a review on any of the platforms, especially Apple, because we have a large portion of our audience on that platform. So that always helps kind of drive us up in the algorithm of searches. But like subscribe, share, all the things, it really does make a big difference to help a small business just kind of get out there and be seen.

Speaker 2:

So word of mouth makes a big big deal and also helps to normalize shows like ours, to normalize these discussions, especially around the topic of fat babes, fat bodies. So the more we all know, the better, and we should just share information, normalize the conversations. It'll make us all 100 times happier, 10 times happier. It's worth it and better humans.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, cool, cool, cool oh, so fun, but yeah, very I want to hear what other people uh want us to talk about and do a a little 101 on for sure that would be fine, okay, cool all right.

Speaker 2:

Well, we'll see you later.

Speaker 3:

Alligator after a while. Crocodile.

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