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Fat Con, Kink & Fat Liberation
Chrystal and Merf are back with a bold and juicy new episode diving into Fat Con 2025, kink exploration, and radical fat liberation.
💥 Merf shares her journey into kink—including rope classes made for fat bodies, becoming a pleasure Dom, and creating a power exchange dynamic with her husband.
🔥 Chrystal dishes on Fat Con highlights, from powerful rope performances and fat-positive representation to surprise celebrity run-ins and fat joy in full bloom.
🎤 Merf also recounts a powerful, impromptu fat liberation speech she gave to a room full of doctors—and the ripple effect it created.
🎬 Plus: Oscars chat, Lizzo discourse, Kendrick Lamar’s halftime brilliance, the rise of diet culture (again), and why representation still matters—everywhere.
Also in this episode:
- Fat Lab rope space in Oakland
- Madam Helix & Otter Viking
- New Big Sexy Merch up to size 8X
- Healing through kink and aftercare
- The politics of bodies, power, and pleasure
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Hi, welcome to Big Sexy Chat. I'm Crystal, I'm Murph. We're just two rad fatties sitting around chewing the fat Twice a month. We'll be chatting about current events hot topics sex, sex toys, fat politics, fat community cannabis, cbd, you name it. We're going to talk about it. We are very excited to have you a part of our community. Welcome and enjoy. Hey, welcome back to Big Sexy Chat. This is Crystal, and I'm here with my lovely co-host, murph Hi. Murph Hi.
Speaker 2:How are things? Oh, things have been very interesting and pretty wild lately. How about for you?
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm fine. I'm fine, we're fine, we're going to be fine.
Speaker 2:As the world is burning around us, this is fine, yeah, this is lovely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in case somebody listens to this, in 10 years from now, we're in the middle of the hellscape that is the Trump is our president and Elon Musk is the co-president.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the world is laughing at us and it has been quite an interesting first. What like 38? 60 days?
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't even 45 days. So did you all see the Cybertruck with the red, white and blue flag on the side and Musk and Trump and JD Vance flag on the side, and the musk and trump and jd vance painting on the side of the cyber truck, which I like to call the incel mobile? And it said if vaginal dryness had a picture or a name like that would be it right there that I'm very dry. For the next year I'll probably be dry seriously. Oh, the three and that cyber truck is such a piece of shit oh and yeah, where I have the most visceral like I know visual response.
Speaker 2:When I see one of those, I'm just like, oh fucking dick, like that's literally like all I can think murph, there are so many right where I live, oh, I'm sure sane, it's so gross. I am sure you're in the heart of silicon valley, so you're seeing every douchebag and his brother but you know our political meetings that I go to.
Speaker 2:There's all these people organizing protests in front of the different tesla district dealerships which is awesome yeah, I've seen a lot of folks um graffitiing the actual wesla signs and stuff like that. They call them nazi mobiles, yeah the swastikars.
Speaker 1:Swastika, that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But so yeah, in 10 years hopefully, if we're living and alive and things are still, the world still exists right, you'll know why we were having so much existential dread right now.
Speaker 2:A big sexy chat, oh the yeah, every day I you know I mentioned this, but I just want to say this to everybody out there I realized how, how privileged I am and how I've thought about addiction because since he has taken office, I literally just make it day to day. I live through the day and then I'll live through tomorrow, when tomorrow happens. But I think of the office where Dwight is just freaking out because Jim is trying to turn into a vampire as a joke, but he thinks it might be real. So he's just one crisis at a time while he's doing something. That's all like one crisis at a time. That's all I can do, folks it's all I can do.
Speaker 1:I'm trying not to get sucked into the daily you know shit. But it's hard because everywhere and I have to see when I go to work for like eight or nine hours, I'm pretty much out of it. And it does make me, my brain, feel a little more, because when I get home, that's when I start taking all in. I'm like some days I have to just turn off because, well, tonight I'm gonna, I'm gonna enjoy the oscars and hopefully there'll be a little bit of politics in there where people be like fuck you or whatever you know.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it'll be a nice break tonight to watch that. I'm only living through the news with the Daily Show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, smart, that's a really great way, that's a great tactic to handle this one, yeah, anyway, so I thought today I would tell you a little bit since I haven't gotten to see or really chat with you a little bit about my trip to FatCon 2025. Oh yeah, I had a great time. It was January 31st through February 2nd and it was in Seattle again, like the first one that we all three went to and they're having another one. They already scheduled the next one for 2026 for January 16th through January 18th. So we'll see about go next year possibly. It was really good time and I got to see lots of my friends. Of course Tigress was there. You know we all love Tigress, love Tigress. I got to meet Lindley Ashline in person for the first time. Oh cool, yeah, it was really cool. We really got to get her on soon. And then I got to meet Ron from his podcast. Is that Wait For it?
Speaker 2:W-E-I-G-H-T. Yes, I've been. I've been like consuming that nonstop lately Great, great podcast.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's big run, yeah, great podcast and great podcast. Award-winning podcast, that's right. You know who else I got to meet on the elevator was Jayla from Lizzo's the show about the big girls.
Speaker 1:Oh, the one that could do the splits. Yeah, oh, the one that could do the splits. Yeah, nice, we shared an elevator. I was like I know you. She didn't say too much. Then I saw her later. Hi, miss Elevator, I know who you are now. It took me a minute. She wasn't all done up, she was just checking in, like me, so we were both kind of like. But anyway, just the two of us were on the elevator. I was like you know where do I know her from and she's lovely and beautiful. That was. That was exciting. She went to emmy or there's something, something. Yeah, anyway, um, there was a lot, of a lot more this year that I noticed more trans representation at fat con, lovely yeah, lots of queer uh representation, and then there was also some kinky representation there, which is interesting.
Speaker 1:So I want to tell you a little bit about some of the kink I got to take part in. I went to a rope bondage performance keen on Instagram. She was the rigger or the maybe rope top and then she had a rope bottom I'm not sure if those are the right words, but anyway, she had a person that she was suspending from her really cool, kind of like a swing set chrome swing set style thing that held the rope and the person and looked like it was holding her effortlessly. It was really cool, but there was a performance. It was really cool, but there was a performance. It wasn't really like a demonstration, so she wasn't really explaining what she was doing, they were just performing it.
Speaker 1:It was a scene and then people were very moved emotionally at the end and were like crying because they felt some kind of relief from it or release. It was interesting and you could tell there was a lot of trust between her and her rope bottom. But there were some things I've never seen before, like having her process at the end of it with a blanket over her. Apparently that's how she likes to process and then when she lifted the blanket off like 10 or 15 minutes later, she seemed like she was the robot, was still very emotional, she was tearful and everybody else was very tearful, a lot of people sitting around it. So it was really intense, it was really fascinating but yeah, lots of kinksters this time this year.
Speaker 2:Very cool, and you were doing something kind of kinky up there too, right? Well, I did do a talk about hot sex for fat folks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that was so much fun and I got I sold lots of sex toys while I was there. Nice, yeah it was really fun.
Speaker 2:That's fantastic. Well, I um I also have been involved in some kink stuff as a plate yeah, I want to learn about that. Tell me all about it. Yeah, yeah, I want to learn about that. Tell me all about it. Expectations, those types of things. So it was really just kind of like a rundown of that process and the dominatrix that was hosting it was very engaging, was interesting, and so I was like, hmm, I might want to look into having classes.
Speaker 1:Was this a class that was advertised as for all bodies, or was it just all comers, or was it All.
Speaker 2:Yep, okay, yeah, and actually it was part of, um, uh, a site that does parties afterwards, so it was like attend the workshop and then you can go to the party. We didn't go to the party, we just went to the workshop, but, um, it was pretty cool and it was like all right, this is really interesting and I thought, well, I would like to learn how to become a dominatrix from a dominatrix. And so what happened was I looked into a local dominatrix who is plus size. I don't know if she claims that she's fat, but she's a small fat if she is but she is local in Sacramento and had some really awesome options for learning, so I paid to have a three hour session and gain some knowledge from her. Her name on Instagram is madamhelix H-E-L-I-X, if you're interested in looking her up For sure.
Speaker 2:And so did the one-on-one class and that was really interesting, gained a lot of specific knowledge about myself because there was some asking of questions and things like that, and I found out that I am a pleasure, dom, this was just you alone, just you and her For a part of it. And then my husband was there so that we could role play some stuff and so I could practice practice, which was really cool. Um, you know, she'd give specific things to try, like hand movements instead of using words, um, talking very slowly when giving instructions. So it was really interesting, you know to, to have him come into the room and, like you know, have commands basically. So we've been working on a contract together to try out, so that's been fun. And he was like, let's go to a rope class. And I said okay, because it was specifically about fat bodies, and so we drove to Oakland and went to the class. It was super cool. It's called Fat Lab. It's a rope space for large body enthusiasts, rope enthusiasts.
Speaker 1:I follow them yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So it was really neat because we went and the studio is just gorgeous. I mean, it is like wood with the you know the hooks and everything, and then there's like these bamboo things that you can hang people from so you can multiple people can do it at one time, Just really. You know a beautiful space, very hygienic, very like you had to show your COVID vaccination, all those types of things, and the space was, or the folks that were there were just really like a well-rounded, diverse group of people. It was really cool because we had no real expectations, right. It was just like let's go and learn. And so they sat everybody down. Everybody had like a talk.
Speaker 2:I guess somebody in the rope community who's pretty popular, said some really negative stuff about fat bodies, and so the rest of the community basically stepped in and said no, you need to stop, you need to shut your mouth, and so they were talking about that, and so it was a great chance to kind of learn about how that impacted everybody. And, just like you know, a lot of them have had to hide their kinks or have been told that their bodies are too large to participate in rope or, like you know somebody who's like well experienced as the rope binder or the rope top. They would go up to those individuals and say, like I'd really like to work with you, and they'd be like nope, you're too, you're too over the size. Like I don't, I don't do that.
Speaker 1:Like nope you're too over the size. I don't do that. That's weird because I usually think of the kink community as being so open-minded about bodies and body size, age, all that stuff.
Speaker 2:Right. Well, and that was what was so cool, was they talked about that, as those were the things that happened years ago when they first started to get into the community, and now it sounds like they're really trying to build out a community of you. Come as you are. There were folks there that had fewer appendages like you know, limbs, they were doing it. There were people there that were practicing on themselves. There were poly couples that were there that were working as a team. It was really older, younger, like it was really cool. Really older, younger. It was really cool. And they did a demonstration.
Speaker 1:They actually showed how to bring someone from the floor up into the air and I was watching this and I was just like this is such an art, because they were so talented in how quickly they could get those knots undone, pull the person up a little bit more, tie them back up, go to the other side undo it, put it, you know, and it was just like wow, but she lifted the individual off of the bondage.
Speaker 1:If you want to get out of it urgently, yes, or if there's an emergency, obviously there's other ways to do that. But one of my best friends is a pro-dom and she works with all kinds of different body types at all different ages. I don't think she has no rules about anybody's body, there's just whoever wants to come and be treated to a session with her.
Speaker 2:Right, well, and that's really the way it should be. I mean, you're just involving yourself in that person's kink. It's not something that you have to claim is sexual. Sometimes, it can be a mental space that you just want to be in.
Speaker 1:Remember Beck told us when we talked to her about her shibari work is that it's ropist for all bodies.
Speaker 2:That's right and that was clear. You know from being there. After they did the demonstration, it was an hour of rope play and everybody was at different levels, but they were all trying new stuff and different sizes, bodies, different. You know, it was just a space where you could come and do rope and there was no judgment about anything. There were small fats, there were super fats. It was great because it was just like come as you are, try it out.
Speaker 1:At the fat con, the person that was being tied up with. I would say she was a larger human, maybe a small fat but tall. And then the person that was doing the tying, the otter viking that she calls herself. She identifies as fat and she's also probably like a small to mid fat in that. You know that parlance. But, um, it was so it was. It was definitely. You know. They weren't um, you know the typical, you know western beauty, ideal kind of thing.
Speaker 1:Neither one of them was just like like like every, like every other human in that at that, you know fat con, it was so cool and she did demonstrate, perform how, like beck was describing to us how they put if you're a heavier person, they widen how the rope gets tied to your appendages, your legs or whatever, so that it doesn't hurt. Yep, because? So then, because you spread out the where the I'm using my hands right now people are watching this on youtube, we'll see what we're talking about but they spread out the rope so that it's wider, so it's not digging into your fascia. I would say I have tender fascia. It doesn't dig into your fat right, so the weight gravity's not yanking you down and killing your skin yeah, and that's what what the individual who was hosting the fat lab said.
Speaker 2:They were like we're going to do reverse tension and so watching them do the reverse tension but also add in extra layers. This person was also a mid fat, but they were explaining like you can, you know, do a four tier around you know like, and that will give it basically the space so that it doesn't roll, because that's what happens is that it will roll and that's when it starts to hurt. So that, yeah, they gave different ways to do that, which was really cool. There's so much science behind how to tie rope correctly, a lot of physics. Yeah, I was like okay, boy Scouts, I see you, I see why you make these guys do all these different knots.
Speaker 1:Were there a lot of, was it mixed gender like? Were more women being tied? It was a really cool mix of people.
Speaker 2:Um, but yeah, there were some that were singles, you know, that were just like. This guy did this amazing. It was like um, it went all the way, started at the top of his thigh, went all the way down to his knee, um, and just roping himself and tying, and it became this just gorgeous teal piece of rope that he had just displayed. And I was like wow, man, like that's really cool. We didn't really play around with rope, we just kind of watched because we are so, so, so new to it. I was like no, we're probably going to do a 101 class for that, but I hear that there's one in Sacramento that's starting up and it's an all bodies, uh, rope group. So we're going to try that out too, yay yes, bring the fun to the fatties too, definitely yeah we like to do kinky fun things too.
Speaker 1:So you're imagine, imagine yourself you. You want to do more tying or do you want to receive the tying Both? A little of everything.
Speaker 2:I think I want to do a little bit of both. Yeah, I'm very interested in the breast compression tying. That looks really interesting. And then I like the idea of doing a role play. I always think of those black and white cartoons where the villain grabs the cute hourglass girl, throws him over, throws her over his shoulder and then, like, ties her to the railroad tracks, you know kind of thing. Um, so I don't know. Well, we might play around with that a little bit, um, but yeah, I'm also interested in time tying him up and seeing what that's you know all about.
Speaker 1:I've seen a lot of people do the rope bondage where the person's feet are sort of isolated and then they can do all kinds of things to those feet.
Speaker 2:Tickle, tickles. That was the next class I went to. So on Friday I went to a BDSM impact class where they talked about how to hit correctly, what different instruments you can use, different things that you can do, and they talked a bit about sensation play. But that's going to be another class that she's going to hold, so I'm going to go try that out too and see what that's like. But yeah, lots of new and interesting, exciting things on my end learning how to. New and interesting, exciting things on my end learning how to be a dom and I don't know, I might make a side gig out of it. I was saying to a friend I was like maybe I could have like an OnlyFans and like boss around Republican men and get their money you can and turn them into money pigs and just give you money, right.
Speaker 2:Like this is genius. This might be my side hustle.
Speaker 1:Totally. You can have a lot of fun with it and there's a lot of good money to be made in that industry.
Speaker 1:let me tell you yeah, it's mind-boggling how much people pay for this, especially for the in-person stuff. It's like wow, oh right, you see that people well, where I live, people have a lot of extra money to just play with, you know. So they have that fuck you money. So going to spending1,500 at a professional dominatrix for three hours is a big deal to them. Right, they show up with cash, you know. Yeah, that's, that's their self-care Basically. Yeah, escape, and that's one of the things I guess like about you know, I like to pretend that I'm submissive sometimes, but it's kind of like a vacation for me, a vacation for my brain. Yeah, you know, an hour or two where I don't have to make any decisions or that kind of thing interests me, but I'm very guilty of topping from the bottom.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's kind of where I've always been is topping from the bottom. I'm excited.
Speaker 1:It seems like my husband is really interested in the idea of me being in total control, and that can even involve like requiring him to do housework and I'm like oh wait a minute here yes, mistress, j has some people that come over and just like clean the you know dust bunnies from the ceiling and mop the floor.
Speaker 2:And, yes, they pay her for the privilege to do that and that's one thing that Madam Helix said to me. She was like, if he's doing those things and you're regularly doing those things, think of all the extra time it's going to save for the two of you to be able to do this if you make him do those things.
Speaker 1:And I was like oh wait a second.
Speaker 2:I like this reframe. This is good.
Speaker 1:And there's people out there that will come and do that for you too, if you want to meet other people and bring them into your world. But yeah, that's a whole different thing. A lot of women that are killing it from doing this kind of work and it's, like you know, one more step to just murdering the patriarchy and just saying, fuck you.
Speaker 2:Right, give me your money. Fuck you, give me your money. That's right Now lick my boots.
Speaker 1:That's right, yeah, whatever we got to do it takes a village Murph, it sure does, oh Lord. Also, the impact play I was going to tell you. One of the best sellers at the FatCon was a little leather paddle that I brought that leaves the word slut on your skin after the person smacks you with it. And people were, of course, you know they're using it on each other in the hallways and stuff. I was like oh gosh, everybody likes that one one. They always like the one that says sled on it and it's you know, nice four letters, it's just like perfect, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then bam, it's just right there. But yeah, it's, uh, it's kind of fun that way. And then, yeah, impact play doesn't really have to hurt, right, it could just be like stingy or just make things red. And there's, yeah, there's, there's so much accoutrement right. There's like outfits you can wear, things you can buy and oh.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:James likes a new hobby. Yeah, oh yeah. No, it was like.
Speaker 2:OK, let's like dive in. We've been buying different implements and instruments and yeah, it's just been. It's been an interesting process to think of how psychological it really is and how you have to be in the right headspace, and yeah it's. I've enjoyed that part of it, really learning about the psychological and the physiological responses and why that happens. And it doesn't have to be about pain. That was an interesting part of what she talked about was that this can really be edging in the terms of it's something that makes you a little scared and so it releases those endorphins. It's like getting on a roller coaster, right, you don't know when you're going to get hit, or there's sensory deprivation or whatever it may be. It doesn't have to be pain-oriented or punishment-oriented. It can absolutely, but it also can just be about trying to exhilarate your partner with new, different sensations.
Speaker 1:New energy. Yeah, I know I probably said this a few times on the podcast, but it's like some nights I love my hair pulled, oh yeah, other nights I fucking hate it.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:He's like but last night I I'm like I don't know why. Okay, I just don't want it tonight, just sorry, yep, I know it's hard to figure out and if I want it I will ask for it. I'm very clear about that.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I'm 57, you know I don't, I don't like, I'm a little coy I've never been a coy person, but, um, so yeah, I don't know why, sometimes I like it, sometimes I I don't, but there's definitely something there too, and I know there's a lot more psychology to it and all that stuff. But sometimes it feels amazing, you know, like other times it reminds me of me, my sister and me pulling each other's hair when we're having a fight.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:That's not sexy. No, and you, you really have, you know, the warmup's there if that, I have to be in the right mood, the right frame of mind.
Speaker 2:Otherwise it's like you know, Absolutely Well, and you know talking about that individual who had the blanket over her while you know she was processing coming down. There's a lot to talk about, like after play or after care, sorry, after care is the most important, like after play uh or after care.
Speaker 2:Sorry, um care. Yeah, I mean like this, like petting somebody, cuddling or putting a blanket over them or you know whatever um that person wants um it. It was interesting to learn that um the for the top, it's more feedback, feedback oriented as aftercare of, like I really enjoyed this, or next time don't do that as much. So, yeah, I think there's a really good process of communication in BDSM that isn't in a lot of other activities when it comes to exploring sexual related things.
Speaker 1:I love the checking in thing that is involved with having a kinky relationship, and it did take me a while to figure out what I needed or wanted for aftercare after we did things that were you know sort of people most people would consider like less vanilla and more kinky, right, and I would need, like what I need, I want more time with that person.
Speaker 1:So I want him to, you know, spend the next day with just me, just focus on me and like cuddling with me and, you know, talking with me and holding my hand, and like not just. You know I can't, just I need a Sunday of just like what I want, you know, like more, like he wants an evening or whatever something. I need you to just be present and be here for me and I just it took me a long time to understand that and then be okay for asking for that, because I, I like to consider myself as someone who doesn't really really need a man. I like having one, though, and I don't need one, but I was like why? But then I, I, you know I had to suffer to debate with myself about that and like it's also certain words you or daddy, those kinds of things. Oh, that took me a long years, in fact, to understand and be able to work with them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh absolutely it's intense or it can be very intense. I'm a goddamn feminist, that's right, I know. Well, and that was something that you know we were talking about too. He was like you know, you're so hyper independent, you know, I like the idea of being able to serve you and I was like, oh, okay, like yeah, I understand.
Speaker 2:I've had two other really interesting things happen since we last chatted. I went to my leadership cohort class and we had to do a three-minute presentation by teaching somebody something. And I didn't prepare and I was sitting in the room and the first guy comes up and he teaches everybody about the live tournaments for golfing. And so I was like okay, what do I know that these people don't know? Because it's a room full of chief medical officers, surgeons, doctors, therapists, nurses, and I'm just like what am I going to teach these people? And I'm just like what am I going to teach these people?
Speaker 2:And I was like fat liberation. And so I was like okay. So I started writing stuff down really quick. I got up to do my presentation and I said I want everybody here to close their eyes or look at the ground and I'm going to say a word. And when I say the word if it immediately brings something positive to mind and you think positive things after. I want you to raise your hand. And I said the word is fat, fat and nobody raised their hand, shocking Murph, I know.
Speaker 1:And then two people. We're just not trying to find obesity, you know.
Speaker 2:Right, two people just like slowly started to put their hand up. You know kind of like, uh, I want to do that, you know. And I said, open your eyes. And they all looked around at each other and were just, you know, kind of quiet. And I said at each other and were just kind of quiet and I said so you all associate the word fat with something bad, and I just want to tell you how difficult it was for me to choose to participate in this cohort, because I knew the coming here. I would be in a room full of doctors who their main job is to eradicate me, and I also knew that I would be the fattest person in the room and I went on to talk about fat liberation and Tigris and Reagan and our podcast they love our podcast, by the way. Did you cry? My voice was super shaky, and so when I got done, I mean the response from these doctors was incredible.
Speaker 2:I had to be for you and presentation I've ever had even though my voice was shaky and I was nervous and all those things. I think that was the first time people left learning something from one, from me, like doing a presentation.
Speaker 1:I'm not surprised you came up with in three minutes or whatever, because this has been your whole fucking life, right, your whole existence, and good for you, I'm. Yeah, I mean you could probably talk about that for hours if you had to or you wanted to, but that's amazing, I just feel.
Speaker 1:Well, they were so privileged to be able to be there to hear that from you yeah and and I'm assuming that they also automatically have some respect for you, some level of respect for you, just because you're there. So that helps, right and then right, you're very real and you are a fat person. You talked about being fat, and eradicating us is really what they're trying to do.
Speaker 2:That was like a very strong word, but it's what it is yeah what it is well, and we this was like the week that trump took office was when we all met and you know everybody in that room's like our programs are getting cut left and right.
Speaker 2:You know we know the danger this represents to our populations, that we serve all the things, and so, you know, saying that out loud of like your job is to eradicate me, I think really brought them to a space of like holy shit, I'm part of the problem, you know, because we had spent so much time talking about the shit that is the Trump administration and I think they realized like, oh, I've, I am in the bad place and I might be part of the bad place. Like this was a kind of moment, and I'm glad that it happened, because I think the complexity of all those things, adding up the Trump stuff, the doctors, all those things it was like let's just rip this apart and show you what's in the middle. You talk to me regularly, you know who I am, you trust my professional stuff, but there's still that, oh, I don't like that, you're fat, and so making that the focus really felt like it was meaningful.
Speaker 1:How exciting and how terrifying all at the same time. And I'm so proud of you and proud to know you and count you as a friend and know that you were able to out there. You're out there doing that work, that kind of work that Reagan was doing and is doing, and that's important stuff. And what I totally see for you is you making a video of that presentation and we're going to package it, we're going to sell it. Yes, because that's good stuff. Murph, that's really good. Thank you for that. Thank you for from on behalf of all of our community. I know, I know everybody's grateful for that kind of stuff, because it doesn't happen often enough and when it does, it's always super meaningful. Yeah, that's so cool. Thanks for sharing that with us. Yeah, of course, thank you, you're busy.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I'm so interested to see what comes in the next couple weeks because with work it has been wild. Knowing Medicaid's going to get cut. I'm like, oh, I don't know what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1:It's so hard to understand. I mean, I can't believe. I agree with Steve Bannon, which I never thought those words would come out of my mouth. But he's right, you cannot put Medicaid and Medicare. This is his base. He's going to piss off a lot of people if that happens.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's his people. I mean, a lot of them are going to be on those, those absolutely I don't know what they're called, but yeah, anyway, I digress. Well, um, it seems like have you been noticing like there's a lot of um, a lot of that sort of more like diet stuff, like besides those epic, just like everywhere you look right now?
Speaker 1:oh yeah everything like I remember I shared that, um, even 23andme is moving into the diet world because you know they're struggling financially and they, they can barely keep their doors open. Now they're like, oh, let's sell diet products and diet culture and well, maybe we could say a business. Now I'm like that's so gross, fucking 23andme. They're going to be a diet company and sell olympic. Wow, it's everywhere. It's not. That's how much money makes people.
Speaker 2:It's well, yeah, and then it's something I can jump on board and make a quick buck.
Speaker 1:I don't care how it impacts right yeah, and like I'm going to watch the oscars tonight and I know I was reading that kate mann sub stack and she was talking about watch tonight, watch you, watch the uh oscars, which is, you know, going to be um interesting because pretty much everybody in hollywood's doing some kind of diet yeah, and I'm sure it's going to look very, very thin tonight. And if I find any fat girls at the or fat people at the oscars, you could guarantee I'm going to be sharing it on all my socials right now, because it's going to be a small miracle if there's any fat people around.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can only think of a few actors that will probably be present. But yeah, I'm sure Conan will make fun of it too. Oh, I'm sure that everybody's on it but. I was watching a clip of I don't remember if it was the Screen Actors Guild. Kathy Bates won and I haven't seen her in quite some time. Whoa, does she have cancer? Yeah, no.
Speaker 1:Dieting. I was a big or one of those Wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was shocking.
Speaker 1:I was like whoa, what happened here? Well, that's where my brain goes when I see somebody who's had a drastic weight loss. Are they okay? Yeah, it worries me, but yeah, now it's so common, I guess that's not shouldn't be my first reaction anymore. I don't know. I'm more concerned about people than I care about their fucking weight. But yeah, it's weird to see her like that and like it's her body. She can do whatever she wants, for sure, but it's, it was.
Speaker 2:It's startling at first, for sure yeah, well, I hadn't seen her in so long. And then to see that I was like whoa, whoa, what's going on? Yeah, oh, I'm sure we'll see some wild stuff with the oscars.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's going to be interesting so I plan to have it t-vote or whatever're recording. I'm going to watch it frame by frame and watch for any fatties.
Speaker 2:Do you remember that Joan Rivers show on E Entertainment where they would like the red carpet or whatever and then like talk about everybody's outfits and stuff? Can you imagine that in this day and age? Can you imagine that in this day and age, something I mean like I know people say things off, you know, like off cuff, but to have a whole show like talking shit about people and what they're wearing, like I just what the hell did we grow up in? Like?
Speaker 1:totally. And doesn't her daughter have a dis or eating disorder? She did, yeah, yeah, not surprised. That's a lot of pressure to come from that, and I know that joan river's always talking about how she was fat and she was clearly never fat, right, but not in the whole existence I ever saw her.
Speaker 2:But yeah, yeah, I don't think that was fine anymore, hopefully, yeah I just think, like when you said that I was just like holy shit, I don't remember the name fly anymore, hopefully. Yeah, I just was thinking like when you said that I was just like holy shit, I don't remember the name of the show, but yeah it was just like let's just talk shit about how people look and it's like, oh my.
Speaker 1:God, yeah, that's not cute anymore. Yeah, it never was, but yeah, it seems like it's out of fashion right now. That's going to change. But you know what I forgot to tell you? Who I ran into while I was at fat con was joe from big fig. Big fig mattress company oh yes it was so fun to see her. As I've never met her in person, we just communicated the email, yeah and um, so they were there. Of course, they have another giveaway nice you know who else was?
Speaker 1:there was the mermaid, um shea monique, oh cool. You know what they did in the pool? They got a bunch of. So she taught people how to do like underwater dancing and they did like a little performance. They got them in a circle and they were all, like you know, paddling to get out. It was really. I only saw video. I missed that day because I was trying to prepare for my presentation, but it was so cool.
Speaker 2:She's beautiful, like synchronized swimming.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, that's the word Synchronized swimming yeah. That's awesome Bunch of fatties, synchronized swimming and they all, everybody had all these beautiful bathing suits and bikinis and tinkinis and colorful and stripes and you know it was very just like it is. Anytime you go to a fat pool party where there's fat people, it's fucking amazing.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Not enough of that in the world. But yeah, I forgot to tell you about those two people because especially you need to meet Joe in person, because we've communicated so much but never even talked on the phone, so it was nice to see her. She was really lovely and very supportive and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2:I'm glad she showed up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, me too, Because last year we were there there was nobody there for Big.
Speaker 2:Fig Right, but they still had given away the big mattress.
Speaker 1:Yeah, had given away the big mattress. Yeah, yeah, they're so. They're so generous that way. Oh yeah, what do you and I need to do? Another? Uh, a video or a podcast about how we're feeling about our big figs yeah, like a year later.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, definitely that's a good idea did you?
Speaker 1:you know that um survival of the fat, survival of the thick, is about to come back yes I'm so excited. Michelle buteau is everywhere. I know, I love seeing her everywhere I'm like yes, get on the view, go to the whatever conan, go to jay leno or no, he's off the air now jimmy, fallon jimmy fallon yeah, colbert seth myers yeah see, I could watch colbert and myers every night. Yeah, I love them. They're fantastic.
Speaker 2:We have similar politics yeah, and very similar to daily show kind of you know snark. I love me some snark. Yeah, and then uh, wasn't there news about maybe?
Speaker 1:somebody, maybe somebody somewhere. They may have a fourth season. The first of all, there was a petition.
Speaker 1:I don't know if y'all signed it, but I did and um, I know it got, you know, tens of thousands of signatures and now they're looking somebody, a different group of people is looking at possibly making more episodes of that show. So apparently the cast was a little surprised about the ending, or me, that it was going to end, you know, like they didn't know, I guess when they were recording the third show, the third third season, but the ending was pretty like they tied up a lot of loose strings so I mean I guess I wasn't totally surprised that that was the last episode. But anyway, I feel like it was such a great show. Yeah, it was very wholesome, right, it was very relatable. Oh, absolutely. And yeah, I would love it if it came back. And I mean Bridget Ever came back, and I mean bridget everett's amazeballs. I mean I'm sitting here without a bra on. Hey, she inspired me, you're right. She's like there shouldn't be such so much stress about wearing a bra all the time.
Speaker 2:Seriously, I just wore my.
Speaker 1:I wore my scarf to cover up my fucking free. What do you call it? I'm free balling it for the butt boobs, that's right I don't really do that, but thank you, Bridget Everett.
Speaker 2:Exactly, Creed from the office would say swing low, sweet chariots.
Speaker 1:That would be me right now. That's right. My breasts are very unruly without a bra, so, like whoa, what else is going on? Anything else?
Speaker 2:I can't think of anything that has been happening outside of that.
Speaker 1:Lots of Lizzo. I see her all the time in the oh yeah, right now I I've had to unfollow her on stuff I just can't.
Speaker 2:She put out, I think, a new song or something that's very like trying to be madonna slash, whitney houston from the 80s kind of. Look with the black lace and the yeah, again, you don't.
Speaker 1:You do you. So that's your body and all that good stuff, but man, absolutely all those shows and still the go big girl, and I just feel like, wow. So none of that was even, yeah, kind of real for you, it was just an act it seemed it yeah, it seemed like the.
Speaker 2:The response now is that it was so.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's really too bad, so it's so inauthentic, right, yeah, not cute anymore.
Speaker 2:Nobody wants to see that no, and you know I I think you'd like. You said you go, do you? That's fine, uh, but we don't have to be a part of it anymore.
Speaker 2:So yeah, it's just a bummer yeah I was saying to my husband the other day, he goes oh shit, meredith. And when he says that, like you know, something is like big news, and I go what? He goes, um, did you see this new stuff about tom hardy? And I just stopped and I go I I can't, james, if something is it bad, because I just couldn't even get it out. I was like if he did something terrible, I don't know how I will continue moving forward.
Speaker 1:What was it?
Speaker 2:Read this and he points it at me, and he brought his dog that he adopted from a shelter onto the red carpet as his like date and I was just like oh God, thank God.
Speaker 1:Hmm, right, he's not doing his.
Speaker 2:I was just like no, god, no, thankfully, but that's where my headspace has been, so I immediately went to the bad.
Speaker 1:Or something really problematic, something rapey.
Speaker 2:Right, I know I was like no, I won't be able to move on. Oh no, it just seems like everybody man like lizzo, nelly, snoop, dogg, I'm just like what the hell is happening thank goodness we have people like kendrick lamar oh, thank god yeah.
Speaker 1:To blow everybody's mind and educate and entertain.
Speaker 2:I wish that there was more education around it. You have to kind of go seek that to hear really everything that his Super Bowl presentation was about.
Speaker 1:I've been looking for the choreographer and I finally found her on her socials. I'm like hell yeah.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:As soon as I started watching the choreography I was like, oh, this is so cool. And then like, oh, there's not one single white dancer. Huh, I wonder if there's a message here. I wonder if it's like hello, pay attention people. I told Dave as we were watching it I go, he's on no social media. I go oh my god, the white outrage is about to hit social media. Because what do you mean? I go dude. Oh yeah, people are gonna be, this is dude. I don't like. This is all black. Dudes are like it's not for you, bitch, okay, just right, sit down boy. He's like what do you mean? I go, you just wait now. It's been going three or four weeks, it's still going, but it's. I think it's awesome because he's like what do you mean? I go, you just wait now. It's been going three or four weeks, it's still going, but it's I think it's awesome because he's getting so much attention and so many views and engagement and and hopefully educating people.
Speaker 1:And um, yeah, yeah, enough with this fucking white outrage after the super. How could barf? I was like, oh god right, I just kept going around. He's a pulitzer prize winner. He's a pulitzer prize winner. He's a pulitzer fucking google. There's google, we all have google wikipedia. I'll just type it in yep, he fucking won a pulitzer prize. He's our. He's our tupac. Maybe he's our maya angelou, I think of um bob marley because it was such a political.
Speaker 2:Yes, like I'm telling you the plight of the people and yeah, pay attention to us and listen to us and do something.
Speaker 1:White people right, I'm talking to the white people, not just to fatties. But um, yeah, we just need that. That was beautiful, it was amazing and the choreography is fucking awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I aspire to be that petty one day in my life oh, when he turned his head, I, just I, I like sat back in my chair with my mouth open, like, oh, because it was perfection.
Speaker 1:So adorable.
Speaker 2:Oh, so cute.
Speaker 1:And then I was like, is that Serena? I'm like I don't know. That's Serena. You see her legs. They are so strong, it's so beautiful. She could probably, yes, hurt a lot of people with those legs if she wanted to. Yeah, she's just so strong and so beautiful. Like, oh, she could probably, yes, hurt a lot of people with those legs if she wanted to yeah, she's just so strong and so beautiful.
Speaker 2:I thought of, like, um that 007, uh, where the russian gal jumps on his face and like squeezes his neck with his, with her thighs like those were those thighs. I was like damn serena's got thighs on beautiful.
Speaker 1:They're so good. Yeah, she's so. She's amazingly beautiful, anyway, but yeah, that was so fun, that was so great.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The stage, everything, how much of the stage they use? Anyway, we should stop. I could go on about this forever and ever, but that was so cool, it was very, very cool. Yeah well, if there's nothing else.
Speaker 1:I will say, oh and I, um, we finally did launch our big sexy merch website. Yes, we sell our t-shirts that say glorifying obesity because it's so fabulous to glorify the fat life, it's so great to be fat. We get into, we get to cut in line, we get free drinks. We get, uh, none of that. Actually, we get treated like shit at the doctor. So, yeah, my partner and I, we launched our big sexy merch and we I found, uh, v-neck t-shirts up to size 8x, which is lovely yes it's really rare.
Speaker 1:So that was really exciting to find those and, yeah, we're making them here at home and that's our, it's our new side hustle, so to speak. So that's fun. Big sexy merch. And then I don't have I'm not doing any social media for big sexy merch yet, but we have our own social media. We love for people to subscribe to Big Sexy Chat and you want to tell everybody where to find us, murph.
Speaker 2:You can find us at BigSexyChatcom. You can also find us on all the socials at Big Sexy Chat, and if you wanted to send us an email, you could do so at BigSexyChatPod at gmailcom. You could do so at bigsexychatpod at gmailcom. Please share this with your friends. Like review, leave us a comment, tell us what you think, engage with us people. You're listening, we know you are. We see the numbers, so just talk to us. We're right here.
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