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Leather, Lube & Liberation: BDSM, Fat Joy & Sex Signals

Chrystal & Merf Season 4 Episode 8

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In this juicy new episode of Big Sexy Chat, Chrystal and Merf are back with updates, laughter, and deep dives into fat pleasure, power exchange, and the ways we signal our sexy truths to the world.

🎙️ Merf shares her exciting new job and consulting biz helping survivors of trauma, plus her upcoming debut as a dominatrix (meet Madam Cyn)!
💬 Chrystal talks about her recent seminar, and the joys of building body-positive merch from scratch.
🔥 Together, they explore BDSM dungeon dynamics, ethical non-monogamy signals like black rings and bandanas, and how kinky elders are still getting it on (and passing STIs).
👵 From perimenopause to progesterone, hormones to Hustler Store finds, the duo doesn’t shy away from real talk about aging, joy, and sexual freedom.
💥 They also discuss the recent viral stories of fatphobia, weight loss discourse, and why fat joy is a form of resistance.

✨ Stick around for plans to interview legends like Joan Price, Amazon Amanda, and possibly… a dominatrix roundtable?! Yes, please.

🖤 Episode keywords: BDSM, Dominatrix, Non-Monogamy, Fat Joy, Menopause, Sex Toys, Fatphobia, Signaling, Bandana Code, Black Ring, Ethical Kink, Sex Over 60, Body Liberation, Fat Liberation, Health at Every Size

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Speaker 1:

Hey, you made it. Ha, you're just in time For a little something juicy with Crystal and Murph. Dark and fat sex. Big feels, hot Takes and kinks. We're breaking all the rules, babe. What you think it's Big Sexy Chase, say it back now. Big Sexy Chase, let's go.

Speaker 2:

Hi, welcome back to Big Sexy Chat. I'm Crystal. I'm here with my lovely co-host, murph. Hi, murph.

Speaker 1:

Hi, what's going on, chica? Oh man, there's been all kinds of stuff going on. Tell us more. I know I have been super busy. I'm about to start my own consulting business, which has been kind of like a dream in the making. So I'm just getting that process started. And I got a new job, a nine-to to five job, which has been really amazing. I'm going to be working closely with individuals who are victims of sexual assault, sexual violence and human trafficking. So really neat, interesting ways to approach that and bring the therapeutic lens to it. So I'm excited. And then, on the naughty side, I have been juggling, building more into BDSM sort of stuff, and I have found some really cool new items to use and try out. And I've been getting coaching and I think my first dungeon experience of getting to be a dom is going to happen next week. So I'm really excited for it. I'm kind of nervous, but yeah, we'll see how it goes. So that's, that's what's been going on with me. What's been going on with you?

Speaker 2:

Well, hang on. What tell me about the consulting?

Speaker 1:

Oh, um. So there's just an opportunity really to start my own business and um be available to go out and do speaking events and some consulting on um creating therapeutic programs for behavioral health services in the state of California, so helping people like understand Medi-Cal and the managed care plans and things like that. So, yeah, it's been something I've been wanting to just kind of have in the background and making it a reality.

Speaker 2:

finally, you are a great speaker. I'm so excited to learn more about that when it happens children and it was all about their own self-care.

Speaker 1:

So it was really exciting to get to kind of give examples and tangible things that people can use, you know, without having to go talk to the therapist. So it's always fun to be able to give people a couple of little tools.

Speaker 2:

Self-care for the caretaker yes, so needed.

Speaker 1:

So needed and for such a specialty population. You know these individuals are really, you know, a constant need like from whenever their child's born. You know, until probably long into adulthood how to set them up for success, and it's a demanding job, and so there's very little love from our culture about not hustling all the time and putting yourself first, so it's nice for these ladies to be able to really focus in on that.

Speaker 2:

You know my brother not to go off into this situation or this topic too much, but my brother was born with Down syndrome and fully autistic and nonverbal and my parents basically took care of him like he was a one-year-old until he was in his 50s. So I know there's a lot of that going on out there in the world. People have children with disabilities. It's tough.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and there's very little honor of how the caregiver has to take care of the caregiver, you know. And hearing and giving space to these ladies it was so great to see their faces of just like I'm being told I'm being given a pass to like focus on me. They were just elated. They even had like a dance party afterwards and a raffle and it was a really great event validation is an amazing feeling yes, it is but okay, now I want to know about your dominatrix persona.

Speaker 2:

Do you have a name?

Speaker 1:

I do, it's madam sin Cyn C-Y-N, but it has Cyn, yeah, and so he has to call me madam, and I love that.

Speaker 2:

Are you? Is this just going to be between you and your partner, or others are going to be involved?

Speaker 1:

Oh, right now it's just me and my partner, but we are going to an open event. So there are these. Usually they're like really solidly established. They're not like pop-up kind of things, but they're like dungeons and people build dungeons and they're just all the equipment and you have to have all the rules and follow everybody's guidelines. But basically everybody can go and use the equipment for a scene, and so I've decided I'm going to use the bench. This time. I got to participate using the cross the St Andrew's cross but I really like the idea of the bench because it's just really good for spanking, so I'm excited.

Speaker 2:

It's good for a lot of things.

Speaker 1:

Maybe a little bit of ball torture cbt, not talk.

Speaker 2:

Therapy is not what I mean when I see cbt it's like yeah, it's both cockball torture and also I know well.

Speaker 1:

First time I heard that acronym I was like you're gonna do psychotherapy on his balls, like what? What are you talking about?

Speaker 2:

it's the best, it's really so good. You know that show when it was on netflix with that lady who was doing those like sex room. Yes you're like oh man, I want every one of those houses, every one of their rooms for real.

Speaker 1:

I there was just there. I was sitting there watching it. You know, it's like when you watch any kind of dream home thing you're like, okay, well, I like this part of it, but not that, or I wouldn't need that, but I'd want this and that one that they built um in that couple's basement.

Speaker 2:

Um, that little dungeon was hot, yes, that was wild I. There's a sex toy trade show going on in la right now called and me and that woman I can't remember her name who was the star of that show. She's a sex toy trade show going on in LA right now called and Me, and that woman I can't remember her name who was the star of that show. She's a speaker down at and Me. I wish I could be there for that I love her.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's awesome. She seems like a little.

Speaker 2:

British lady. Yeah, a little naughty, and kinky yes, people pay for that, as you know.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm. Yes, they do, yeah, all that furniture.

Speaker 2:

That's one good thing about that stupid freaking 50 shades of gray movie. Was that red room? Oh god, yeah, oh man, incredible, it was amazing like that's all I need.

Speaker 1:

I just need one of those rooms like it had everything in it had the massage table, had the bed, I had the you know all the furniture just a hundred thousand dollars worth of sex furniture is all I need you know, you know, and I need a quiet room.

Speaker 2:

I need a quiet room where people can be loud and my neighbors don't hear.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, seriously like soundproof. Sound well so yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2:

So what have I been up to?

Speaker 1:

um working electrolyte electrology during the day, t-shirts and sex toys at night as always, I've been seeing more of the posts for um the sexy merch. Tell us a little bit about where we can find it well, you have a big fat brat t-shirt.

Speaker 2:

This is the one I sent to our in as well. She wanted the big, sexy, big fat. Yeah, yeah, it's really fun. Um, you know, we're still just getting orders here and they're not nothing too crazy yet, but we're still working through our our little here. But it's a lot of fun and I get a lot of feedback from people. Oh my God, some people are asking if they can make shirts for their events. I'm like, oh, I'm just barely figuring out how to get people three shirts at one time. But now they're like oh, could you get us two made in every size with these two designs, with our like their gym, that's body positive or their fat liberation group like, okay, hang on, let me see if I can figure this out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's fun, it's really exciting I'm having a blast with it and I love wearing them. I especially love laurie and my one. That says fat joy is a form of resistance and I do really want to get. That says I'm not letting these motherfuckers steal my joy Cause I'm not having some fat joy. I don't care what's going on, the world can be burning down around me, I still have to have some fat joy. Heck yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's the only way to live right now. So, yeah, that, and I went to Vegas as my hometown, as you know, know when I went to vegas for a one-day electrology seminar, learning some advanced stuff like trans work, how to deal with elderly skin, how to have good consultations. So you know, I always want to learn anything and everything. I love to learn, learn, learn a thousand percent. No, I just want to be a lifelong learner absolutely I.

Speaker 1:

I feel so much sorrow for the people that don't or don't like to do that I was going to ask.

Speaker 1:

It's a seminar, it wasn't a convention. Okay, do they bring in guest speakers, or is it like these are the people that host it and they're also the ones that put on the trainings, both, and they do have the two that put on the trainings, both and they do have the two of them, the people that organized it, they did presentations and they had two other people, other experts, talking about sanitation and sterilization and giving a really good consultation.

Speaker 2:

So it was really good.

Speaker 2:

It was a long day, uh, four classes in one room with 46 people and one toilet oh no, it was 105 degrees in las vegas, so, oh yeah, other than they oversold the room a little bit, so it was such a person with a big, huge butt. It's not the most uh, comfortable, just tricky every time to get up and go pee. You know, sorry, did I knock your laptop down? Oops, didn't realize it was all the way back there. Yeah, so that's pretty much it, and then I'm just working and trying to work my way through stuff, like the rest of us. I'm so excited for you, for your new job. I know that's going to make you so much happier, thank you I know you were miserable.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so this will definitely be a good change. It feels like and it's only been one week it feels like I'm taking a deep breath and I'm about to you know, like that feels good, like I know it's coming.

Speaker 2:

It's still a little tense is what I'm like.

Speaker 1:

I haven't fully got that like yes, I'm finally away from this. I find too, when I start something new it takes me a good three months to really feel like I'm contributing. Yep, oh, absolutely. I mean I'll be seeing more patients to kind of get everything going, and I haven't done that in a really long time. So it's going to be, it's going to especially kiddos like I've seen adults but seeing little kiddos it's going to be a change for me. So I've been hitting up all the back-to-school stuff. Right now that's happening.

Speaker 2:

I'm trying to get all kinds of supplies little stickers, crayons, markers, all that stuff. So back to the sexy stuff. Yeah, you know I get a lot of sex stuff in my feed because I'm attached to a lot of groups that have to do with sex toys designing them, manufacturing them, distributing them. And I came across this story the other day and I always wondered why there wasn't something like this about how to signal to other people that you do not know, that you might be like into ethical non-monogamy. You might be like into ethical non-monogamy, or you might be a swinger or you might be a cuckold or you anyway. And I knew. I knew about the pineapple. I think that's like a big swingers thing, that upside down and what you're saying like there's some cruise ship that won't. They're not letting people have the pineapple in the door anymore because God forbid, people have hot sex in their cabin.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they put a crackdown on it. They didn want signalling on their cruise line no more pineapples.

Speaker 2:

Pineapples are foreboding stupid. So yeah, then I read about. I read this story from some link somewhere that said swingers now are wearing a black ring on. I think think their right finger. Yeah, right ring finger, yep, I was like.

Speaker 2:

I was always. Why don't they have something like that? When you go somewhere and you're like, hey, we might be open to this, you know kind of thing. And also you know, as you know, ethical non-monogamy is very it's kind of coming out from out of the shadows now and people are talking about open marriages and it's not. It feels like to be 100 years old. Does it make sense to have sex with one person your entire adult life?

Speaker 1:

I don't know I mean, I think we were all sold that as a means of control, but um, no, I don't. I don't think that's accurate and I think that a lot of people are really starting to wake up to that, especially this new generation that they're really recognizing. Like I can have multiple partners and I can have different aspects of my life shared with this person that also enjoys that thing or, you know, exploring kinks and things like that. You're not going to find a partner that wants to do all the things that you want to do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, good luck trying to find one person to fill every single one of those physical or emotional needs for like 50 years or whatever the stupid idea is.

Speaker 1:

Well, but I love the idea of signaling because you know it's like you're, especially in the world that we live in now. It's so much safer to be able to be like. I'm going to go out and put a black ring on my right ring finger. You know the pride flag. That's an indicator. There's, you know, different aspects of bandanas. Have you heard of that?

Speaker 2:

When I had my store I definitely heard people talk about it. I wasn't sure who wears which color or which pocket or which side. I know sometimes when they have the Folsom Street Fair, I know people have their hankies or their bandanas and they signaled each other. So it's something kind of new to learning about that one. But um, I haven't really seen in action. I haven't really been to a lot of kinky events though yeah, it says um.

Speaker 1:

It originated in the 70s, um, from gay male cruising culture, and putting it out meant you were into a. Putting out a certain bandana and a certain color meant that you were into that sexual activity. Yellow meant water sports, Red meant fisting, Black was BDSM, Green meant that you would pay for sex Lots of different things. Orange was anything goes. So I think you know there's there's definitely been this um, this resurgence of individuals trying to really share hey, I'm kind of into this in a place where it might not be accepted. Oh hey, look, there's an orange bandana. Oh hey, look, there's an orange bandana.

Speaker 2:

At my store I definitely saw people coming in with their collars on. So if they were in a dom submissive relationship, the subbie would have the collar on with the lock on it. We definitely had people who come into the store that were wearing the tails and they were like more like into the puppy play and things like that, pretending like they're an animal, a tiger or feline of some kind, and they would wear their tails either attached to their jeans or their pants, all kinds of things. I was like I learned so much those five years of having that boutique, but it's cool. It's like, basically it's a different kind of self-expression, but you're expressing, expressing or sexuality right.

Speaker 1:

The thing that I thought was so cool learning about signaling was that in Florida retirement communities it's not uncommon for them to put different colored loofahs on their car antennas or their golf cart antennas.

Speaker 2:

On their.

Speaker 1:

Cadillacs, yeah, to indicate you know that they like hey, you want to come. You know, like hey girl.

Speaker 2:

Hey, I have some Viagra on me tonight. Watch out.

Speaker 1:

I'm living in a retirement community, that's what I'm going to like Hell. Yeah, that's great. I'm like this. You know it doesn't even end. You know, once you get older it's like, oh really.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure you've heard about how retirement communities have a lot of higher STD rates. Mm-hmm. They think that they're invincible, first of all, and then also women outlive men. So the men are scarce and they are, they're being, they're not wearing protection all the time.

Speaker 1:

Right, well, and they're having multiple partners and little sex parties and things that happen. I mean, it's so popular. Even Bob's Burgers did an episode on it and it was hilarious, like, but very, also very heartwarming because Linda, the daughter, doesn't want her mom and dad to be doing it, but then this realizes how happy it makes them.

Speaker 2:

It's so cute I mean there is. It's nobody really likes to think about their parents having sex, but what I used to tell people is remember that means they probably still really like each other. So if you want your parents to stay together, it's probably a good thing. Nobody wants to really think about it, but right it an indication that they're still having a decent relationship.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and why wouldn't you want to be Like we're all going to get old? We're all going to get to the point where we still are feeling sexually active. Maybe we have different mobility issues due to age, but we're still going to be thinking and acting like we probably do, as we are now, like I think I'm 18 in my brain.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Well, we all got here the same way and that means also we're all going to have old sex and, just like we were talking about, I think, at a different episode, more than likely almost all of us are going to experience some kind of disability at some point in our lives. So you know, while it's fun to make fun of our president, I don't make fun of his weight or the fact that he sometimes may wear a diaper, because y'all you might be wearing a diaper one day too, so let's not make fun of that. Here's another reason to make fun of him for.

Speaker 1:

Exactly One of other reasons I was thinking about that Like we should an elderly sex episode, and you know who's a really good resource for that is my friend, jessica Drake. Your friend Jessica Drake, yeah, and you know, joan Price too. Exactly, they did a little collab together, that'd be cool, huh it's a great topic.

Speaker 2:

I love it. I'll write that down.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So yeah, I think you know we've had some really interesting abilities to do. Signaling there's even more. I mean, there's some that I think you know. People are saying things like toe jewelry or like little um clippy stuffed animals to backpacks for, like you know, in college and that kind of I don't know. Some of that stuff I think is just like oh, people have kind of like associated that thing, but I don't think it's like really real. But some of them are very, very real. So you have to don't think it's like really real, but some of them are very, very real. So you have to don't go approaching somebody that's like wearing an orange bandana, you know that, just coming out of the blue and saying something like give them, give them some space and check the situation before you go, run an option to do that, thank you, oh, pineapple, pineapple.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I'm just drinking the pina colada.

Speaker 1:

Exactly, you got to approach that stuff gently. Just the signal is letting you know it may be something or not exactly yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 2:

I think it's cool. People are figuring out a way to communicate with one another just like belonging to any infinity group, right?

Speaker 1:

right, yeah. What do you think the fat liberationist symbol should be? Or signal should be? We need one.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, it should be purple.

Speaker 1:

I like that.

Speaker 2:

Well, according to the trolls, all fat girls like purple. Did you know? Do you like purple, murph? I thought almost everybody liked purple. I think they do, but I think you're more into pink.

Speaker 1:

I'm more into pink, but I do love purple.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I get this a lot from the trolls, like, oh God, you all fat girls have non-traditional colored hair and you all love purple. I'm like, yeah, okay, all of us, every single one of us. Dime mad I don't know we, I don't know. We should ask our community if they have any ideas for something that we could wear to let people know yeah, I'm fat, no shit, motherfucker. And, by the way, I'm unapologetic about it.

Speaker 1:

That's right. I'm a liberationist, that's right, yeah let's ask our community.

Speaker 2:

I'll write that down as well.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I dig it.

Speaker 2:

What's been happening in the media lately, anything fat related. So many things in the last month or so since we've recorded there's that a-hole that spit on that lady on the airplane for being fat.

Speaker 2:

Oh, there's the lady that relegated all her fat people at a wedding to the weight watchers table, which actually please seat me with the other fatties, because that would be so much more fun. We'll be able to eat our cake without worrying about it, but still rude without telling people. I think it was her sister that got mad. She's like what the hell? I'm your sister and yeah, just a lot of crazy stuff like that going on in the zeitgeist.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's been a lot of um. I've been seeing a lot more articles about uh, fat influencers losing weight. One of my favorite um fat comedians is um on Ozempic and she really like she, she shared, like that doesn't change how I'm feeling about the community or anything else, and it's like, yeah, but you know, like um, you know, especially when you just start seeing more like photos and you know that kind of thing, and it's like um, you know it really is about the looks, it's not about anything else.

Speaker 2:

Well, if it was about health, there would be no before and after photo. It's not about health, we know. And honestly, honestly, you know, I do believe in agency and autonomy. Do whatever you want with your body. I don't think intentional weight loss is a great idea. I think ozempic is fantastic for people with blood sugar issues, if it works for them, if it's okay for them, like if they don't feel sick. On.

Speaker 1:

I prefer there to be more research, but you know, if you're taking sure you have blood sugar, I get that yeah, and I I think that you know that's one of the things, um, that has just been so harmful in all of this is that it hasn't been about the health aspect of it. It's really been about like, oh, I can lose, you know, whatever, even though I'm shitting and all these other things to myself, like, well, god, it's like to your stomach, whatever.

Speaker 2:

We call those a pants disaster here in my home. I hate when that happens.

Speaker 1:

Let me ask you would you rather sit at the Weight Watchers wedding table or dance with your ex in the tightest dress that you own?

Speaker 2:

I'm going to say Weight Watchers table.

Speaker 1:

Weight Watchers table.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

What about you?

Speaker 1:

I Well, like you mentioned, if all the fatties are together, we're likely going to have a good time. So you?

Speaker 2:

know, we're dancing fat, we're eating fat.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

We're having cake, fat, fat.

Speaker 1:

We're doing all the stuff fat unless it's like people that like were intentionally being on weight watch, you know like but it's not like she was just an ugly person, that yeah had all the fatties together I fell on the weight watchers 14 times I love it. It's so successful, so great. I just love it.

Speaker 2:

It's my favorite. It helps me feel like I can stay in control. Oh my god, how much money have you given that damn company?

Speaker 1:

it was all when I was a kid, like probably up until yeah, I don't think any money after 18 good for you. Yeah, one of the things I was thinking about the other day were those snack well, cookies, oh my god, I forgot about those I hated the taste of them, but I loved the texture we had them everywhere at my house yeah, the devil's food. Yeah, it was the texture thing for me. They don't make them anymore.

Speaker 2:

No, they were green, green boxes, huh.

Speaker 1:

Yep, I'm seeing it all now.

Speaker 2:

Oh, murph Right, I know I had like a flashback of it and I was like, oh, it brought me right back to like Weight Watcher days Totally, and then there used to be a thing called the Diet Center. I don't know what that is and I learned this amazing recipe that I still really enjoy today, which is cutting up an apple and like putting cinnamon on and then putting in the oven with some butter. It's delicious. It's supposed to be diet food, diet dessert. Oh, it's awesome.

Speaker 1:

I still love it yeah, that sounds like the pie without the crust.

Speaker 2:

Whatever?

Speaker 1:

Can I also say the fat situation on the plane where the lady was screaming and spitting and all the things Whomever. If you know listeners, if you know the individual that was sitting in that airplane, I would like to nominate her for the Nobel Peace Prize or sainthood either one, because, yeah, this would be. I'm going to let God fix it, because if I fix it I'm going to jail.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she should reach out to us. We could send her a little goodie bag of some sex toys and stuff. I would love that. I would totally do that for her. Yes, If you all know her know how to get a hold of her, tell her to reach out to us at bigsexychatpod at gmailcom. We want to lavish her with gifts.

Speaker 1:

Hell yeah, and I'd love to hear how she's handling that now. And she was a small fat.

Speaker 2:

Barely fat, and the girl just didn't want her to.

Speaker 1:

she don't want to sit next to a fat person. I have no idea what that. She was belligerent to the point where I was just like she's got to go, like somebody needs to punch her in the face so that she just passes out see, I don't know what would happen to me if someone spat on me.

Speaker 2:

I would probably just see red and rage and then I would just wake up like in the prison or a jail or something or a hospital. I wouldn't if you spit on me.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I don't know I've had two kids do it when I was working at the school district and it it is one of the most yeah, it is one of the most rageful.

Speaker 2:

I feel like more pressure going up just thinking about it right exactly yikes. So what else is new for you? Anything in the fun part of your life that's not so serious about what's going on in the world and what's going on with work, besides well being a dot matrix.

Speaker 1:

I went to the Hustler store and they had a toy that I was kind of interested in. Have I told you?

Speaker 2:

that I want to move into our Hustler store here. Oh my gosh. They have a whole table that recharges all of your sex toys at one time.

Speaker 1:

Everything. And it's gorgeous, it's glass and it's illuminated Like it's beautiful. Yeah, I would love to live in a Hustler store, especially the one. Have you been to, the one in LA?

Speaker 2:

No, oh, maybe like 20 years ago.

Speaker 1:

it's like it's like oh, like you walk in, it's one of the coolest little store. I mean it's not little actually. I mean it's a pretty big store, but it's like kind of on the corner of a busy street so it seems like it's little, but yeah, it's, it's beautiful.

Speaker 2:

it's on millrose, right, I think so. The one here is across the street from the nakey bar, the pink poodle, where they dance buck naked but they don't serve any booze, because you can't be naked and have booze in san jose. Then, right across the street, hustler store, nice Store, nice, great, I know.

Speaker 1:

Good planning? Yeah Well, because they have that entertainer special. If you're an entertainer you can get specialty stuff with them and discounts and all kinds of stuff like that for gear for your job.

Speaker 2:

What'd you buy? Anything.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I bought a sexy pair of underwear from a man, sweet.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I heard that Andrew Christian's going out of business and he does all the or he's retiring, um, and he's the one who designs, like all the sexy men underwear that we usually buy, and I was just so sad to hear that I was like oh, I hope somebody else takes over the like the banana hammocks type things um, no more like briefs, but like with um kind of like, uh, maybe like mesh with bright colors or, you know, like in more cool designs, that kind of stuff, um and different fabrics, so, um, lots of it's very popular in the gay culture like club culture oh, I bet they're awesome.

Speaker 1:

I've never I don't think I know them yeah, so it's very popular in the gay culture like club culture. Oh, I bet they're awesome. I've never seen. I don't think I know them. Yeah, so it's a bummer that he's retiring and it doesn't sound like right now, it doesn't sound like anyone's taking over his business. But I digress. So bought the pair of underwear and saw a very long handled toy that had a sucker on one end and then had a nubbin that was texturized and had a vibrator. It was a vibrating toy. So I was it off the little table and pressed the button and the nubbin kind of vibrates so heavily that it almost pushes up in an up motion. So when you insert it it's basically pressing on your G-spot and it's a thud toy, it's not a fuzz toy.

Speaker 2:

I like rumbly, especially on my G-spot.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm. And then you got the sucker so you can use that. I was like, oh, it's all silicone suction like the other suction toys yeah, like the the error in the air pulse technology yes, interesting to find out more about it yeah, I um long, like for fat bodies, long yes, I

Speaker 1:

think this is something we need to um award womanizer about because, I think we might have some competition here if we don't get on that long handle womanizer, because this one was 10 inches whoa yeah, that's a nice handle it had and it's got a big head on it.

Speaker 1:

So I was like, well, um you're talking my language I know, so I think I'm probably gonna go back to hustler and buy it, because I was just kind of like well, I've got so many tallies right now, you know, like it, just he like, and so now I've been thinking about it. For the rest, I haven't, it hasn't left my mind, which means like I know, I need to go back and get it.

Speaker 2:

Maybe I'll go by there tomorrow night. I get off work a little bit early tomorrow night and I can drive down there and see if they have something like that at my Hustler store it's called um pervy oh, I don't know if I'm saying that right p-r-i-v, and then the e has like a little fancy symbol, so never heard of it. Yes, yeah, I.

Speaker 1:

There's a never-ending supply of new sex toys coming out constantly well, in going to show seeing some of the ones that are coming out, I'm still waiting to see the one that balloons up inside you once you so it like expands the. I was like that's so cool. I haven't seen it actually on the market yet. I think she said it was going to be late summer early fall. Vaginal penetration or anal penetration Vaginal penetration, penetration, vaginal penetration, yeah, and then it goes and it.

Speaker 2:

you pick how big, but it can get pretty thick and wide people that are into fisting and stretching. They might really like that. And that's the red bandana, I think you said for the red bandana, the hanky code I like the name, the hanky code. That's's cute. It's fun Well we'll have to check it out and see, I know we're always looking for new sponsors, so we would love to find a sexy new toy sponsor that would help us pay the bills Exactly and promote Like when.

Speaker 1:

I find something that's hella good. It's the gift that I get my girls Like done, done and done.

Speaker 2:

For sure I know my girls like done, done and done for sure I know and we yeah, we both. I know we're both kind of sex toy aficionados. So if I love it, everybody's gonna know I love it and I'm not afraid to talk about it with anybody. Heck, no, I. I see six to eight women a day on my table. We talk about this all day long all that?

Speaker 1:

yeah, yeah, I just was talking about it with my new boss the other day.

Speaker 2:

It was like I like your boss.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm like you know, this is just, this is real shit, like, and I think it's really been a lot of women that are like in that perimenopausal age or menopausal, that they're just like. I'm coming authentic. I saw an article where Lamis Morissette was talking about perimenopause and menopause and she was like myself and my friend group have now reached the point where we just don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2:

Zero fucks.

Speaker 1:

We do not care, Club you want to do that.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we do not care. You know I want to just say about that too because I am menopausal. I got put into instant menopause after my hysterectomy. After that, to instant menopause after my hysterectomy, after that wee little bit of cancer I had. And finally, along with my estradiol patch, my hormone patch, I'm also taking progesterone and that really amped up my libido. I was like, okay, thank you progesterone. It turns out I just need to add some hormones back into my body and much better, much better when you did that, did you like?

Speaker 1:

how did your doctor do a panel to find out what your hormones were at, or anything like that?

Speaker 2:

no, but you remember they took everything. So I had a complete everything is gone and even a brand new cervix and um, so I had nothing other than, you know, zero, uh, no more ovaries. So I just so I just complained and complained, and complained, and complained and then they said, okay, let's try it. At first they didn't want to give me hormones because of the little bit of cancer, but then it turned out, the kind of cancer I had, it was okay. But I didn't know that until like three years later. And then after that I like still feel a little bit cloudy in my brain, foggy, and also I would like to have some more libido again. And then she was like, let's try the progesterone, but no, they haven't tested me and I'm trying to get tested for ADHD, it's, you know how it is, it's a whole big Kaiser rigmarole.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm, I know Health insurance.

Speaker 2:

I'm so grateful to what you're doing now too, and especially people are going to need a lot more help with the consulting side of your business, because things are going to change dramatically in the next four to six months, and so people are going to need you. We're all going to need you, for sure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and it's such a racket, you know. It's just I was telling my husband I'm spending $800 a month on my own mental health.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 1:

And it's I'm like dumbfounded every time I have to say that because I'm just like I have to make it the priority but it is literally at least $800 a month because I see my psychiatrist has $400 and then I see my therapist every other week and that's $200 each. So it's been a lot.

Speaker 2:

But maybe once you start enjoying your job more, maybe you'll feel like you don't have to go as often.

Speaker 1:

That's true, and I think that also I'm going to have a way better insurance. So that's going to be good, oh good, good good, but health insurance, like you said, it's a lot right now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, big time, big time. So I'm trying to think about who all the things we were hoping to talk to this year in addition to Joan Price and talking about age and sex and menopause and all that fun stuff who else do we want to interview this year? I know we have a long list.

Speaker 1:

I'm trying to remember who's on it right now? Oh my gosh, there's so many people on that list.

Speaker 2:

We definitely got to get wait for it, ron.

Speaker 1:

Yes, he's so good yeah no, oh, amazon, amanda, amazon, amanda because, she's got some new stuff with her company, the BBW Adventures.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I know we were thinking about talking to the dietician, who's also fat and does like a health at every size kind of approach. So I think that's going to probably be coming up soon.

Speaker 2:

Murph, what if we did something with our friend, our dominatrix friend that was on our show, Mistress J, after you do a little more of your dominatrix things and maybe the two of you could have a cool conversation? Definitely.

Speaker 1:

People would love that.

Speaker 2:

Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you know what? I could maybe get my dominatrix. You could get your dominatrix. We could have a round table. Let's do it. I love it. That was important. It is well, and I'm finding out, it's so much more than sex, like it's a you're talking about, you know, really having someone serve you. It's, it's been weird to you know, kind of unlearn some things, to get to that space of like not having to be the typical woman you know and saying what I want Handling shit, yeah.

Speaker 2:

What I love is the idea that people pay you to come to see you and either maybe pay you to give you a massage or pay you for the benefit of cleaning your house. I'm like hell, I need this.

Speaker 1:

Right, how did I pick the?

Speaker 2:

career that I picked. What the hell was I thinking Right? Someone's going to pay me to come clean my house. That's hot.

Speaker 1:

Seriously and do it in some, you know. Make a little outfit. Make a little outfit the sexy undies that I bought. You know, it's like you're cleaning the house today and I'm going to watch.

Speaker 2:

Mistress J has some cool stories like that. I'm just like you brat Big fat brat, if me Heck yeah, I'm excited for the rest of the year. We have a lot of good stuff coming up, for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Good things we got to have our fat joy.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we do, we sure do, and you know we would love you all to give us lots of love on Instagram. For sure. We have lots of new followers recently and we love having you all here. Thank you for all of your support. And, of course, you can also find us on YouTube. We're still 175 followers there, but we'll get there. But all of our podcasts we do videotape, like right now and then when we're ready, we have it all ready and edited. Ashley puts puts it up on the YouTube channel so you can actually see us having this conversation and especially when we have Amanda on or our other dominatrixes on, you can actually. What's the plural of dominatrixes? Dominatrix guy.

Speaker 2:

I don't know yeah is there anything else that we were going to cover tonight that you were thinking of, that you want to make sure we bring up?

Speaker 1:

No, I think you know just there's a lot going on in the world and it's really important that we take some time to just reflect on good stuff and, like you said, have the joy, have the fun, really try to combat all the negativity that you possibly can and that you're consuming, and that you're not alone in that. Every single person is dealing with a level of that right now and it it's worse, you know, for others and it's you know. We all don't have the same boat, but if we can spend some time really focusing on things that make us happy and still doing the activism, that's how we recharge our batteries.

Speaker 2:

And like I'm just going to end it by saying, do not let those motherfuckers steal your joy, boom, fat joy. It's all about fat joy right now. Exactly, awesome. I'm just going to go ahead and sign off now. I'll see you later, alligator. Well, after a while, crocodile. Bye, murph, talk to you soon, okay, bye.

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