ChitChat with ToyChats: The Reviews Are In

In this episode, we’re joined by Cam Jennings from ToyChats.com, a platform built entirely around user-generated sex toy reviews.

We talk about why ToyChats exists in the first place, how the platform actually works, and what makes a review useful versus just noise. Cam breaks down the difference between brand-driven reviews and reviews from real people, how reviewers get paid, and what they’re looking for before a review goes live.

We also dig into why ToyChats actively wants everyday people reviewing toys, not just influencers or industry insiders, and why having a wide range of bodies, experiences, and opinions makes sex toy shopping safer and more helpful for everyone.

If you’ve ever wished you could hear how a toy actually works for someone who isn’t being paid by the brand, this conversation gives a really clear look at how ToyChats is trying to fill that gap.

Want to check out ToyChats or learn more about how the platform works?
 You can find them here:

ToyChats: https://www.toychats.com/

X / Twitter: https://x.com/ToyChats

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/toychats/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ToychatsOfficial

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@toychatsofficial

Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome & Toy Chats Overview
• 2:06 Paying Reviewers And Why Honesty Wins
• 5:20 Spotting Real Reviews And Video Standards
• 8:20 How Reviewers Get Toys And Support
• 11:40 Reviewer Guidelines And Platform Openness
• 15:18 Building A Safe Home For Adult Content
• 20:36 Standout Creators And Review Best Practices
• 24:38 Labels, Inclusivity, And Recognition Flares
• 28:24 Trade Shows, Origins, And Pivot To Platform
• 33:36 Payments, Retail Realities, And Trust
• 38:12 Vape-Vibe Hybrids, Warranties, And Brands
• 43:44 Returns, Lifetime Policies, And Value
• 48:12 Boundaries, Assumptions, And Consent
• 52:40 Growth Plans, Rewards, And Q1 Focus

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:00

If you've ever bought a sex toy and thought, I wish I knew how this actually worked for someone like me, you're going to love this episode of Big Sexy Chat. We're joined by Cam Jennings from ToyChats.com, a platform built entirely around user-generated sex toy reviews. Cam breaks down how toy chats operate, what they look for in reviews, why honesty matters more than hype, and how they're creating space for real people to help other people make better, safer toy choices. Let's get into it.

SPEAKER_02: 0:36

Hey, you made it! Ha! You're just in time! For a little something juicy with crystalline talking fat. Sex big feels hot take stinky. We're breaking all the rules, babe. What you think?

SPEAKER_03: 0:55

Sexy chat. Say it back down big. Sexy chat. Let's go.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11

Hi all. Welcome back to Big Sexy Chat. My name is Crystal, and I'm here with my lovely co-host, Murph. Hi Merf. Hi. And we have extra special guest today. We I know him through the sex toy industry, and he's been involved in the sex toy industry forever and a day, I as far as I can tell. It's in different ways. And um anyway, today he's here to represent this company he's working for called Toy Chats. Hi, chat. Hi, Cam, welcome.

SPEAKER_04: 1:35

Hey, how are you doing?

SPEAKER_01: 1:37

So I'm great. Thank you. Um, so of course I know you through Pure Pleasure PPP, the group where we um kind of have a bunch of like about 5,000, I think, people who are in the sex toy industry, somehow some kind of adjacent to the sex toy industry industry. And we met via there, and then you know, Cam has great posts and stuff. He's very much a stoner, he's very cannabis forward, and uh, we love that here at Big Sexy Chat. And anyway, welcome, happy to have you today, Cam. Tell us everybody a little bit about Toy Chats.

SPEAKER_04: 2:06

Um, so Toy Chats is uh right now the largest sex toy review platform on the internet. Hell yeah. Uh we're user generated, so it was a little easier to get to be the largest because most of the platforms are uh either single writer or a group of staff riders. So we're user generated. Um we pay$40 per approved four to 10 minute video review that anybody can submit on any sex toy that is available for purchase in like mass quantities. So as long as there's more than 10 of them in existence, essentially, you can uh review it on toy chats, say what you like, and that gives the consumer that's shopping um an easier, uh not easier, well, yeah, easier, but also a more educated process in purchasing their sex toy, which we all know for a variety of reasons. There's uh a big lack of communication between manufacturer and consumer, and uh many different elements of a sex toy that you need to make sure are safe.

SPEAKER_01: 3:11

Cam, I was gonna say two things. First of all, you have a voice for podcasting and radio. Perfect, really nice voice. Yeah, and then um I feel like toy chats is kind of like democratizing sex toy reviews. Often, sex toy reviews, you wonder, why did is this person being paid by that brand? But y'all are kind of like evening out the playing field, I think.

SPEAKER_04: 3:34

That's the goal. Um, I feel the same way you do, to where when I read a review on one of our industry products, it feels very in-house. Most of the reviews seem to be housed on the manufacturer's website itself, which in my opinion makes it worthless, even if it is showing tagging back to somebody's social, et cetera, et cetera. Most of it is paid posting. Um we act as the middleman, so we pay the reviewer directly and we pay a flat rate no matter who it is. Um, a lot of people are really excited for that$40. Others kind of poo-poo it and say they don't want it. That's fine. We'll pay it to who wants it. But um when it's not the manufacturer paying the reviewer directly, I think that that makes for an honest review. And I don't think that 90-95% of the reviews out on the internet on toys are really honest reviews, including the bad ones.

SPEAKER_02: 4:39

Right. Like trying to get some other other companies, you know, looking bad and that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_04: 4:44

I I do want to clarify, not necessarily other companies targeting other companies, but when you're angry, you're just angry. And I don't think that many of the critical reviews uh that I've read out there are too educated, they're just rage. And that could have come from the toy, or that could have come from just a bad experience with yourself, your partner not knowing how to use the toy, et cetera.

SPEAKER_02: 5:05

I totally get it. But how do you how do you tell if a review is real? Like what does that look like? Are there ways that you can kind of suss it out? Because I think of like AI now and all it would take to have a company just like, you know, go write a review, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, on multiple forms.

SPEAKER_04: 5:23

The cool thing about AI is you can copy paste it and kind of check it back on itself. So Chat GPT will snitch itself out if somebody is using AI. Um, a little bit of AI for structure, uh, there's no issue there. Uh, it's it's 2025. We just want it to be your words. Um but if uh AI gives you an outline, that's cool. I don't I I I do that all the time. Um, and I consider myself somewhat of a professional writer. Actually, now I you know work for media company. Hell yeah. Um as far as making sure the reviews are real, that's why we're really pushing for the video reviews. Uh four to ten minute video review doesn't really lie. Uh good luck at this point in the game getting AI to do a solid four to ten minutes of anything. Um so that's not a concern there. And then on the written reviews, they're pretty uh, you know, we pay twice we pay twenty dollars for written reviews. Um, and they're pretty detailed. Like we we put out a questionnaire, we need a few paragraphs. Not every uh review gets approved on toy chats. Like we do, we do only put out the premium reviews that people uh like I'm hoping hoping is uh you guys and your listener base that just put a little bit of time and elbow grease into it. Now you don't have to be a professional writer. We have staff writers, we'll polish it for you. Um same with the video stuff. If you need help, contact at toychaps.com. Like we'll tell you what programs to use, we'll we'll point you in the right direction, you know, uh uh cap cut and free stuff that you can use because you shouldn't have any overhead when you're reviewing a toy for$40. Um so yeah, I hope that answered your question. I kind of felt myself going off on a rabbit trail there.

SPEAKER_01: 7:08

What who how did they how do they get the toy?

SPEAKER_04: 7:10

Uh so the first toy, uh, we ask that you um uh you obtain yourself, uh kind of like the audition toy. So it can be any toy, it can be something that you just bought that you still have in the box. We do prefer an unboxing video. Um, but for like a lot of BDSM gear, it doesn't really matter how new it is. So like you can review it as it is and say this is what it is. Uh that's your first review once that gets approved, posted, and you get paid out your$40. After that, we will send you toys for free. So um we work with a lot of different manufacturers from across the world at the at this point. We're working European, Asian countries, American countries. If it's a sex toy that's available for purchase, we're reviewing it. Um, so they will send us toys to send to our reviewers. Uh, and we obtain them by other methods, trade shows. You know, as long as it's new in the box, hasn't been used as a tester. Um, if it if it if it if it's ready for retail, it's ready for our inventory. So we have a pretty nice catalog, and we're always trying to add to it for all the manufacturers that are listening. You can always uh reach out to me at cam attoychhats.com, send you the address where to send stuff, send us as much stuff as you want, we'll send it for free to the reviewers. Um, and then the reviewers pick it out of our inventory and we ship it to them.

SPEAKER_01: 8:32

So, questi two questions. Well, one's a comment. When I used to have a sex toy store, people was be like trying to return stuff, and I'm like, aren't you glad I don't take return sex toys? Like, doesn't that make you like really happy? Like, want to shop here? Because what if I was reselling someone who took a toy home? Gross. But anyway, I digress. When people apply, when people apply to be a toy reviewer for you, there's a process you look through the their their application, and then is there something that you were looking for or that you don't want to see, or like does it matter? Do you are there any like rules or guidelines about who can and cannot do this?

SPEAKER_04: 9:10

We really just want to see realness. Um, we don't allow any pornography on our site, so um uh keep your genitals covered, and we're we're a little uh lenient on nipples, you know what I mean? Um we don't want to see any hard drug use. We all have nipples, man. Yeah, we don't want to see any any hard drug use on the site, any excessive drinking. But if you're smoking a joint in your review, you know. Uh we're trying to be spicier than Meta, not as spicy as Pornhub, if that makes sense. Um and then as far as the reviewer, we're just looking for people that can speak clearly, look in the camera, deliver a good review with a good video presence. Uh, we're looking to be a little entertained. Um, you know, we want to hear some passion in your voice. Uh it's not for everybody, uh, but it is for more people than you think. And it is for more people than most platforms allow. TikTok is kind of cashed out right now. Like if you if you're not already a TikTok star, you're not gonna be a TikTok star. Instagram is kind of the same way. Toy Chats is a new platform that you can platform yourself on, and you can you can bring people in to uh to see who you are, and it it kind of works like a link tree where you can guide to other social media. Not yet, it's in development. Um, but you can really advertise yourself and brand yourself on Toy Chats, especially for the people like us that revolve around the adult novelty industry, and we're always getting shadow banned left and right. I mean, honestly, with the work that you ladies have done on this podcast, don't you think you would have a lot more traction on it and a lot more success, even though you're doing great, if Meta would just let you meta?

SPEAKER_02: 10:56

Oh, a thousand percent. We we had um the option back in the day where it would um like put forth our podcast to to people on Facebook and our our traffic, everything you know, just significantly drops after they stopped that.

SPEAKER_01: 11:13

Yeah, they used to they used to have a place on the uh business pages. I have one business page that's half a million followers, so we could basically put our podcast there, and basically when we recorded our podcast, it was going live to that page automatically through Facebook, but they got rid of all their blogging or their podcasting.

SPEAKER_04: 11:29

It's it's our goal to be able to platform groups like Big Sexy Chat to where you have a safe place to house your content. You get your message out there, people can like, comment, you know, it it leaks over to other social media. Um, but we want you to be able to have it out there and not have the anxiety that it's gonna get taken down and not get shadow banned by robot analytics and you know, just I've never understood the the the morality police in the payment processing world, in the web world, in the cannabis, even yeah, yeah, like it. I I can watch somebody get murdered on daytime TV, you know, they play Law and Order SVU at like 2 p.m. Um, but I can't advertise a sex toy, I can't have a conversation about sexual health, I can't have a conversation encouraging somebody to masturbate. The world's in a rough place right now. Like there's a lot of dark energy, there's a lot of non-hateful people hating each other type energy in the world right now. And if people just masturbated more, people just got off a little bit more, loved each other, loved themselves, uh, the world would be a better place. Less ragey.

SPEAKER_02: 12:53

A thousand percent. Yeah. I do have two questions though that that kind of brought up when you were talking about um you can build your platform. Do you have like a top influencer? And then if you don't, just in general, like what are the contents of a good review?

SPEAKER_04: 13:11

Sydney Screams. That's my girl. I love her so much. And we were friends before I signed on at Toy Chats. Um she she would always be around the trade show scene before I think she moved to Denmark or Amsterdam or something like that. Like she's on the other side of the world now. Um but I was really excited when I saw simply that she was reviewing on Toy Chats. Um, and since I've been working here, I mean she's she's the MVP in my eyes. Um, if anybody wants the crown, they need to watch what Sydney's doing, uh, follow her lead. Because she syndicates her reviews too. Um, if you upload a review to Toy Chats and upload it to your own website, and we don't care, we'll pay you 40 bucks. We just want your content, the rights to use it on Toy Chats, and we'll go out there and spread the word about it. If somebody comes to Toy Chats and then gets directed to your personal website, your personal blog, your personal brand, good. That's what we're here for. We're a social media site. So um we're not really we don't really see ourselves as competition to the reviewers, more so as a hub for all of them to get along. But yeah, Sydney Screams, um she's great. Our other review, uh Sarah B is one that I'm loving right now. Uh you can see her on um uh you can see her on Toy Chat. She's been doing a lot of like a kitten reviews. Um, I really like her energy. She is very opposite from uh from Sydney. Um uh who's the other one? I think Kinky Daniels, Kinky Daniels underscore T. Um, she goes hard. Like she goes, she gives like an unboxing review, and then the camera goes dark, and she gives a post-game report.

SPEAKER_01: 15:02

Um Sydney is a fat babe if I remember correctly. She's a little tasted the lubes with the other cute girl.

SPEAKER_04: 15:07

Sydney's our big girl.

SPEAKER_01: 15:09

She's a fat babe, yeah. She's gorgeous.

SPEAKER_04: 15:11

Yeah. I am I allowed to say that. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Fat babe? Okay. Well, and that's that's really where I'm hoping that you know, doing this podcast makes your listening base and and your three know that not only are you welcome, we want you at Toy Chats. Um uh there's a lot of fat babes out there, you know what I'm saying? 70% of the world. 70% of the world, and also let's be real, y'all are just cooler. Like you'll walk into an adult story easier, you'll ask those questions. Um I am also a fat babe myself, so I know that we have to be funny and have a thick skin. Oh, yeah, thick skin, yeah, for sure. People ask me why I got my nipples pierced, is because I was tired of people looking at my man boobs when I went to the pool and took my shirt off. Now I take my shirt off and people see nipple rings. Yeah. I still have the man boobs, but nobody cares. Or maybe it's just a me thing. Um, but yeah, Sydney, Sydney definitely falls under the fat babe category and wears it proudly. Um, and I definitely hope that you join her. And um, if there's one thing that fat babes can use is uh encouragement, love, and community.

SPEAKER_01: 16:31

100%, yeah. And good sex.

SPEAKER_04: 16:34

And good sex.

SPEAKER_01: 16:35

Fat people have hot sex all the goddamn time. Murphy said you had two questions.

SPEAKER_02: 16:40

Oh, yeah. The other was um, what what do you think makes for a good review? Like, um, does there need to be like a discussion of the packaging or uh the like what makes for a hot review?

SPEAKER_04: 16:53

I mean, me personally, I I would see the perfect review is kind of taking all of my favorite elements from you know the the creators I just mentioned. So like from an unboxing, seeing how it comes in the packaging, talking about, you know, reading the side of the box and talking about if it's TPE, silicone. Um you know, always you can never say use water-based lube on toys enough. Like that's like a free space on the bingo card. Um, and then going down, it's like, hey, this uh Bat Babe stuff, it the way this toy is shaped fits my body better than this. I really like this because it really works with my physical geography and geometry. Um, you know, we want that that personal account, what you're excited about. And if you're willing, turn that camera off and give us a post-game report. Just clean the toy off if you show it to us again.

SPEAKER_01: 17:48

Uh would would you all consider, would Toy Chats ever consider putting like a fat approved or fat for fat people or some kind of checkbox? It's like, yes, search on these ones. These ones are all going to work for a fat body or a fat babe.

SPEAKER_04: 18:03

Um, I might be able to offer big sexy chat specifically a flare if you come do lots of reviews with us. Uh cool. What what what we're working on rolling out right now, and I need to go to all my friends at the award shows and make sure that it's cool. I don't know if we need to, but I'm going to anyway because it's the right thing to do. Uh, but essentially, if any toy has won an award, uh, we want to add that flare into the review itself so it notates. Um, and and not on the the reviewer doesn't have to know, but every time we have that logged into our system, um, if it's won an ABN award, an X Bus award, uh uh was it Red Spot? There was a new one that uh, or maybe not a new one, but one that's new to me that I I came across while we were looking for everybody that awards sex toys. So I think that would be really cool in that functionality that we're working on, um, to be like big sexy chat approved, because in my peer view, you are the ultimate authority for uh uh fat babe sex toys.

SPEAKER_01: 19:06

Like we're trying to get them to pay attention to us for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 19:10

Well, if if if I were to recommend somebody with your anatomy to um to say who should I listen to, who should I ask? I would I would say big sexy chat. I'd say Murphy and Crystal. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03: 19:30

Yay.

SPEAKER_01: 19:31

So and Sydney, you know. Oh, hell yes. I Sydney's always welcome when I'm around.

SPEAKER_04: 19:39

Have you guys ever interviewed her?

SPEAKER_01: 19:40

Not yet. We'd love to.

SPEAKER_04: 19:42

Oh yeah. I I will definitely uh put her in touch with us. We would love to my recommendations all oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. We'll get we'll get you guys on Instagram. I would love to to see Sydney and y'all just be awesome together.

SPEAKER_01: 20:00

Was at the um altitude show this last March.

unknown: 20:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 20:04

I've met yeah, I recognize Murph. I've met Murph before.

SPEAKER_02: 20:08

Yeah, Vegas. Yeah. Um, it it was a fantastic show. I I really like, oh, I I there's so many things that I'm just like, oh, there's a bunch of stuff that's supposed to come out like this month and next month. Like, let's go.

SPEAKER_04: 20:22

Well, and that's why we want like YouTube specifically, and all three of you as as reviewers on our site specifically, because you get excited about that, you stay up to date. So the the resource of education that big big sexy chat is. I'm hoping toy chats can be an amplifier for.

SPEAKER_01: 20:44

Murph, are you gonna try to go? I'm gonna go to the show this march. Are you gonna try to go? Maybe.

SPEAKER_02: 20:48

Yeah, I'll see if I can swing it financially. We're gonna do a Disney trip.

SPEAKER_01: 20:51

Oh, okay, okay, cool. I gotcha. Um, and so Toy Chats had a table at the last altitude show.

SPEAKER_04: 20:56

Uh Toy Chats was running around. Um, I was actually uh working with a different company earlier this March. I did not sign on to Toy Chats until uh August.

SPEAKER_02: 21:08

What made you make the switch?

SPEAKER_04: 21:10

Well, um I used to work I used to be the adult section director at Champ Strait Shows. So my uh my role in the industry and where I kind of made my name was being the bridge between the smoke shop industry and the adult boutique industry. Um at my core on the cannabis guy. Uh I've been I've been I've been trying to break into the weed industry for 15 years, and uh uh I have, but I I seem to always more successfully land on my feet in adult novelties. I don't know why it's happened multiple times.

SPEAKER_01: 21:45

Intersectionality, please. Intersect, please.

SPEAKER_02: 21:49

All of it create a crossover.

SPEAKER_04: 21:51

But I am the intersectionality guy. That that ultimate ultimately that is my reputation, that is my career, that's what I was before Toy Chats, that's what I'll be after Toy Chats. Like that's why people fuck with me. Um, but uh I left that job um at the end of last year, mainly because of the rise of seven hydroxy. And uh I the spice epidemic hit my hometown pretty hard 10 years ago. Um, so I was starting to see patterns emerge, and I wasn't going to be the bridge that put the uh the faux opiate in adult stores.

SPEAKER_03: 22:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 22:33

Have somebody else fucking do it. Um so that was a really hard time for me. I picked up a contract with an amazing man named Kermit Lowry, uh uh selling uh point of sale systems. Um and done all right with that. That's not my thing at all. I still sell point of sale systems in his stores out there. We got a great one. Uh, but that's that's Kermit's thing, not mine. I'm I'm definitely a media and trade show guy. Um so I had been talking with Toy Chats for a while, but we finally, you know, finally decided that we had been dating and we decided we were gonna get married in August, if that makes sense. Um and I needed to take some time off and selling point of sale really allowed me for that time off, set me up financially a lot better than I was, honestly. And now I'm kind of I'm jumping back into the pool of where I like to be. So uh Toy Chat. If let me ask you a question. How long do you think Toy Chats has been around?

SPEAKER_02: 23:31

Year. I think probably 12 years.

SPEAKER_04: 23:34

Oh, really? 12 years, huh? So yeah, we I love that. That means we're doing our job, right? Toy Chats has only existed since January of this year.

SPEAKER_02: 23:44

Okay, cool. Nice.

SPEAKER_04: 23:46

Toy Chats launched at uh ABN. Nice uh 2020.

SPEAKER_02: 23:50

I was thinking I was thinking that Toy Chats had a long like build up to switch over to this type of platform.

SPEAKER_04: 23:58

Um adult meeting zone was a thing, AMZ. Um the executives in my company decided that the manufacturing lane was a little oversaturated and they were gonna do their own thing. So um instead of battling the industry, uh, they were kind of the new guys and they decided that they wanted to be a resource, not uh a speed bump.

SPEAKER_01: 24:23

Just a sidebar for those of you who don't know this point of sale systems with cannabis and sex toys, we have similar issues with the federal government in that they, first of all, with sex toys, even as generic and PG-rated as I sell them, like through, they consider me to be part of like the porn industry. So when you try to sell sex toys online, it's not that easy because just like with cannabis, you know, and they assume that I'm gonna be some people are gonna just like do chargebacks all day long and that there's gonna be fraud in anything that has to do with sex toys. And so we get lumped together, just like cannabis gets lumped together, all that stuff. So Cam definitely has a challenging part. I mean, he he can probably bridge both both, it could be the bridge to both industries, but it's tricky for a point of sale.

SPEAKER_04: 25:09

Well, and also with you know, the the way that you say that cannabis versus uh or cannabis intersectionality between cannabis and sex toys. Uh, there's also a third player in there that's kind of in the middle, and that's the smoke shop crowd. So it's the challenge of trying to find intersectionality between smoke shops and cannabis, which also seems to be on my shoulders. Uh um, and then uh smoke shops and adults. And the request from adults is always can you can you finish the triangle over to cannabis, which is the hardest part. I've barely got the smoke shop to adult thing.

SPEAKER_01: 25:50

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 25:51

You know, um, and not and not to the original plan at all either, but still doing it and haven't given up on it. Um I just don't have health insurance anymore. Morals are intact though. Yeah, good job. For those never not eyes.

SPEAKER_01: 26:09

So, um, Cam, if you could uh if someone or several people start writing reviews and they all write the same zero stars review for this one product, like are y'all putting up you know sex toy reviews for people that just say this toy sucks or that gives it one star. And are you doing all everything? It doesn't matter how people rate it.

SPEAKER_04: 26:28

I mean, think about the quality of a zero-star review. That's probably not going to exist. Uh to have a zero-star review, I it it it should be a a box that says there's a toy in it, there is no toy in it. Yeah, yeah. Uh, you know, it's it's like the age-old question is a good burger something or nothing.

SPEAKER_01: 26:50

But people can write a one-star review though and give it to you, and y'all might put it up, right?

SPEAKER_04: 26:54

Oh, absolutely. We we we put up all we put up all the bad reviews. As long as it's a quality review and honest, it goes up and it gets paid out. Um, you know, that circles back to kind of the original conversation of uh manufacturers paying for their own reviews. Well, of course, the reviewer is going to give it a good review because they want another job from you. That that's the harsh truth of it.

SPEAKER_01: 27:20

What I used to do, I would say, look, if I love it, it's you know, three, four, or five stars, I'll share it. If if it's two or one, I would rather have a conversation first and say, hey, this sucks really bad. I don't really want to blast a brand if I don't have to. But um, you know, I like to have a conversation with them to say, uh, this is not good before I start putting anything out there.

SPEAKER_04: 27:41

And that's okay because you're in the industry and you have relationships that you want to protect. Um, other reviewers that are in middle America and they don't work in the industry, they don't care.

SPEAKER_01: 27:55

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_04: 27:57

Um, we would love all the content that you will give us or you will sell us for$40 a video. Um, but there will be the people out there that give bad reviews. Um I'm sure that we will find our era where we're starting to get so many bad reviews that we have to really put out uh more detailed standards and everything of what constitutes a one, what constitutes a five. Um, but we'll grow into that. We'll figure it out as we grow. And uh the way that we will find those answers is by listening to the community.

SPEAKER_01: 28:30

What are the brands? How are theirs, how are the brands reacting? How are they reacting to y'all now?

SPEAKER_04: 28:35

They're a little weirded out. It's a new thing. Um uh people in our industry are very traditional. So the uh the up-and-coming manufacturers, they're about it. They're they're all into it. They they want to get as many reviews up as they can. We're getting a lot of business from uh from new brands, which is very reverse because most of my network is the established brands, the founders, the you know, just the royalty. Um right now I'm I'm working with a lot of the people that still have another job, still have another career, and they're launching this toy and they're trying to get the word out about it everywhere they can. And that honestly does my heart good. Um, I like that. I I like help helping small businesses become big. It's my thing. Um, but yeah, the uh, you know, like my friends, the people I go to the bar with, uh like they're the harder sell right now, the ones that have companies that have are are 20 years deep in the game. Uh but we're figuring it out right now, even we're a year old. Companies don't become profitable until two years, if you're lucky. Uh we're we're lucky to have capital behind us. So really, I'm just trying to get them all involved. Um, I'm trying to get as many toys from them as I can. If I can sell them banner advertising or an email blast, stuff like that. Hell yeah, more money in the bank. But we're really taking the outlook of we're gonna build what we do first. Like we make money, we make sales. Um we don't make a net profit yet, but we're ultimately a service. We're we're like Facebook. And Facebook makes money because they offer a great platform that keeps you connected with other people. You're like the Yelp of Sex Toys. We're the Yelp of Sex Toys. Carfax is also another one that we're we're kind of going for the model on there. Um, yeah, we want any anytime somebody has any question about a sex toy, we want to be the first place that they search the sex toy name and see what real people have to say.

SPEAKER_01: 30:46

Get all those people at the at those boutiques with their get your cards in there or something. Make sure you go check, see what toy chat says before you buy this.

SPEAKER_04: 30:54

Yep, we're we're working on it. Uh, we have pretty much standing offers out to manufacturers um and stores alike that hey, we pay$40 per video review that does not come out of your pocket. This is like a rebate for buying this toy in your store or even for the manufacturer putting the our QR code directly on your package. Uh we'll do that with any toy that we deem quality that has good high ratings on uh on toy chats that we can stand behind. Um, we would love it if the Toy Chats logo on a manuf and QR code on any manufacturer's toy uh indicated trust within the consumer as if this is not going to break off in your ass.

SPEAKER_01: 31:44

That's always a plus. I love to I love not going to the ER for a toy in my ass.

SPEAKER_04: 31:49

It's it's Yelp, Carfax, and Oprah's book club are the three that I always say like this is this is the energy that I want to build toy chats into.

SPEAKER_01: 31:58

Oh, remember when Oprah recommended the the rabbit from um not Hitachi, what's their name?

SPEAKER_04: 32:06

Um Cal Exotics?

SPEAKER_01: 32:08

No, the the original rabbit from from Sex in the City for my time. Vibrotex, Vibrotex. Oprah recommended the the Vibretex. Oprah recommended the cordless one, and then Sex in the City is the one that had the original, the pink one with the three C batteries or D batteries. The only time D batteries, flashlights, and and the but the rabbit.

SPEAKER_04: 32:30

You taught me some history. I did not know that Vibrotex was the original rabbit.

SPEAKER_01: 32:34

Yeah, and then there they made the uh cordless one that Oprah put on her list, and then it went crazy again. So first we had a big surge with the Sex in the City episode where what's her name wouldn't go to brunch because the girls they had to have an intervention to get her out of the house. And then and then Oprah recommended the purple uh Vibratex uh core list is three triple A batteries, and then the original had three D or C three C batteries, so good shit. And it was made with uh body safe uh vinyl.

SPEAKER_04: 33:03

Body safe vinyl.

SPEAKER_01: 33:05

I think that's what it was. It's been a while now, but um yeah, I got into this like in 2004, so it was about that time, right around there. And um, yeah. Oh, yeah, I sold a million of those damn Pearl Rabbits. Oh man.

SPEAKER_04: 33:17

I I know which toy you're talking about now. I just never put two and two together that it was the magic wand people that it is.

SPEAKER_01: 33:23

The magic wand people indeed.

SPEAKER_04: 33:25

They just have all the good ideas over there, don't they?

SPEAKER_01: 33:27

You know, they live in the Napa area, hello. It's a good life up there.

SPEAKER_02: 33:32

Fair, yeah, and they just uh made a waterproof one. Hello. Can't go wrong with that.

SPEAKER_01: 33:38

Cam, I want to know, have you ever seen any of these vibrators that are supposed to be like uh vape and a vibrator? Have you seen those toys that like they're trying to do some kind of crossover? I've never seen any of the. Oh, I have one. Do they do okay?

SPEAKER_04: 33:53

No, I have one right here.

SPEAKER_01: 33:55

Do they vibrate well? Do they vibrate enough? They kind of look it's from Maya M-I-A or something like that, M-E-I-A. Do you ever see that, Murph? M M-I-I-A. Something like that. Yeah, I just don't know. No, don't know. Like, do they are they any good?

SPEAKER_04: 34:09

I have two of them running around here. Not only are they one of the not only is the vaporator one of the best vibrators you will ever use, it is um what it's my preferred 510 thread battery. So if I'm going to smoke a cart, I don't know where it is. I have one here, but I don't want to step away from the podcast long enough to find it. Um, it is a fantastic product. It is a grossly underrated product. Um, it if you're going to use a vape cart, it is the battery I recommend, whether you're going to use the vibrator function or not. I cannot endorse the vaporator hard enough. Um, and yeah, anything by Maya, Maya's motors are insane.

SPEAKER_01: 34:55

How do you spell that? Is it M-A-Y-A?

SPEAKER_04: 34:58

It's M-A-I-A. It's it's one of my favorite companies. And you had actually said something about returns on sex toys that made me think about them. Um, Maya, like a kitten, and sports sheets are probably my three favorite companies as a potential consumer right now. I mean, we all know I get hooked up, but uh like if I'm gonna spend my money on a brand, it's gonna be Maya Like a Kitten or Sports Sheets because they all come with lifetime warranties.

SPEAKER_01: 35:32

I did not know that.

SPEAKER_04: 35:34

Um, if I'm missing a company that has a lifetime warranty, I apologize. Uh but yeah, um those three companies are all built with fantastic people. They have fantastic products and they stand behind them with a lifetime warranty. And if you ship the toy back, they look at it long enough to identify that it's that toy, throw it away. Ship you another one.

SPEAKER_01: 36:00

Um we do love sports sheets a lot. We've we definitely love their products.

SPEAKER_04: 36:06

Sports sheets, um, you know, because I'm I'm I am a a BDSM person, I am very kinky. Um that is that is my thing. Uh and I've sports sheets really seems to be uh breaking the glass ceiling on quality bondage gear in adult stores. Um Cal Exotics does a pretty good job. There's others that have pretty good stuff, but there's like a cap on it. Uh Sports Sheets is really hitting quality that feels artisan and feel like and feels like you spent a couple hundred bucks on it, not 50.

SPEAKER_01: 36:42

Sports Sheets also are very fat friendly. Yes. That's hell yeah. They came up with the first um doggy style strap made for, I believe they came up with the first product made specifically for fat people, which is the doggy style strap from Sports Sheets, and then they have several other great, amazing products for fat babes now. And you know, I know there's others, but I think they were the first.

SPEAKER_04: 37:13

I actually clipped it out and did a promo with it.

SPEAKER_01: 37:14

Yeah, it was a good one, a really great review.

SPEAKER_04: 37:17

Yes, I love her so much.

SPEAKER_01: 37:19

Yeah, she's great for sure. She's really hey, so this is kind of related, but not completely. Um Cam, do women assume that you're just down to fuck because you sell sex toys? Because that's what they assume about women that sell sex toys. Like you're just down to fuck like right now. You're just gonna jump on my knob right now. Do they? I mean, I know men are usually down to fuck, but do do women make assumptions about you that you're in the industry, so you must be like a freak or whatever.

SPEAKER_04: 37:45

Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 37:46

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04: 37:46

Um the last the last couple years of my dating life and personal sex life have been very hard uh being front-facing into the industry. Um half of it being uh females that are too forward with me. Um, the other half of it being uh females that are too assumpted with me. Um so yeah, that that has has definitely been a struggle. Uh when people say, Oh, you sell sex toys, so cool. It's like, yo, dude, I work with a bunch of masturbation executives. Like, none of us are really getting laid like you think we are. Um but uh you know, being being one of the younger people in the industry, it has uh the last few years have been a lot of unexpected challenges. My first stint in the industry was a little bit easier because I was still on drugs and did people that were on drugs. But since since I got clean and you know, since I I I got my life turned around and on the horse and trying to be an example and a role model and all that shit. Um yeah, uh it's it's been rough.

SPEAKER_03: 38:57

Growth, it's hard work.

SPEAKER_04: 38:59

Lately it's been cool. Lately it's been cool. You know what I mean? But like uh uh yeah, up until like late last month. Yeah, like like like I said, like just don't touch me there until you ask me. Like I I I have I have consent too. Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_01: 39:20

Yeah, yeah. I I even ask people if they're can are you a hugger? Can I hug you? Because I I don't want to hug anybody that doesn't want to be hugged, and a lot of people don't want to be hugged, but we assume they're hi, and they're like, not everybody wants to be hugged by you. You know, so you should ask for consent for all that stuff. I had a feeling that men were because they make a lot of people make a lot of assumptions like in the vanilla world about you if you're if you like toys or you sell sex toys, they're just so sure. And I'm like, God, dude, you couldn't possibly afford me. Honestly, there's no way I have standards. I know that's shocking to you. I'm fat and I sell sex toys, and I have standards. Woo.

SPEAKER_04: 39:50

Crazy. Most of the assumptions are easy. Honestly, the thing that bothers me most is actually my male friends that will like send me porn or like joke porn. And I don't want to see that. I see an alphabet at work. You know what I mean? It's like, well, you're in the industry. I thought that you were the guy to send this to. It's like, dude, I'm no, I'm not.

SPEAKER_02: 40:11

Yeah. I had um when I worked in forensics, uh, it was it was gruesome. And people would be like, Don't you love that new serial killer podcast? And I'm like, no, like I live this all day long. Like, I don't, this is not, I don't want that's not my way of calming down. I get that it's yours, but when you see and deal with this stuff, it's you're not interested in the same way.

SPEAKER_04: 40:35

Yeah, definitely not. And there's so many examples. I I grew up, my dad was a politician. Uh, last thing I want to talk about any daily week politics. Last thing, you know. So it when you're when you're engulfed in it for work or for other reasons, don't don't pile that shit on people. You know what I mean? Like, I'm down to talk about toys any day. I'm down to talk about sexual health any day. I'm down to give advice any day. Don't send me nasty shit. Don't ask, don't act nasty around me. And don't think that because I work in the industry that it's okay to grab me, that it's okay to touch me, that it's okay to, you know, because it's fucking not.

SPEAKER_01: 41:15

Yeah, never is. What's what's what's what's a core day? I'm glad I'm glad we talked about that. What's next for toy chats? What are y'all excited about? What's what are you focusing on right now? Or for 2026?

SPEAKER_04: 41:28

Just all these new developments are growing so fast, it's kind of hard to keep up with. Um, you know, we have so many new reviewers right now and working really hard on getting our inventory piled up with more toys. Um uh we are coming out with a new program, hopefully at the beginning of the year, where essentially there'll be more options than the$40. Um, because once we pay you out$600, like we need all your personal information. We have to like issue you a W-2, everything like that. A lot of people aren't down with that, but they are down with like a PlayStation or something, you know? Totally. Um, so we're working on getting more rewards in there, we're working on getting more toys in there. Um, we are working on just more touch points where we can put toy images um and uh toy references. Um, you know, we're we're really excited for this quarter one trade show season between altitude and ABN and everything else that's going on. Uh, because it's really our time to ask questions, to ask questions to the manufacturers, say, hey, we've opened up this line of communication. It's there, it's not going anywhere. People are going to review your toys no matter what. Like you're you're you're involved, you know. Um uh even if you don't have a Facebook account, you still end up involved somehow at least once a year, right? Uh, so that's how Toy Chats is set up. So we're working really hard to build out communication between ourselves and the manufacturers so that we can be the best resource we can be for them, and that we're making sure that we get their message across to the consumer the way that they want it told. Um, at the same time, we want to make sure that they know that it's very easy to hear consumer voice now where it hasn't been, at least the last 10 years.

unknown: 43:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 43:21

Unless you're popular, good or bad, like nobody knows about stuff. It's like, yeah, we know about the rabbits and we know about you know this the stuff that people like get stuck up their butts, but like that's pretty much it. You know, there's no middleman, and that's the stuff where you're going to a store, a boutique, you know, and you're trying to figure out, well, should we get this or should we get that? And so many of the brands, like that was a big complaint at the Altitude show was that you know, we have this style of whatever, and then immediately somebody copies it and is manufacturing it. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 43:56

I mean, we're vibrotex who you know, they're they're one of the only companies I endorse that has never given me a dime. Yeah, I did not get VibroTex to work with me. Um and they know I'm salty about it too. Um but uh uh I mean you talk about such an innovative company, like the the the magic wand is probably the best toy on the planet. Um and uh, you know, putting that realization together out of what you said about uh the rabbit.

SPEAKER_01: 44:31

They're the OG.

SPEAKER_04: 44:33

I mean, it it I and and I know for a lot of my manufacturer friends that it's hard to put their stuff out there because they know it's gonna get knocked off if it's good. I was friends with a very short-lived company called Sexual Desires. Um and that was such a beautiful and tragic story at the end of it because they were they were around for like a year or two, but their their thing was low-priced sex dolls. And they put the low-price sex dolls out there and they did well enough. You still see them in stores, and you see them by other companies now. Uh, you know, uh the full circle guys, they make sex dolls. Dolls are a thing now, and that's you know, because in my opinion, sexual desires set the mold and and set things off, and now everybody wants to do dolls. I see that craze fizzling out a little bit, but I do hope that, you know, in my heart, I really do hope that Toy Chats is able to inspire some more original ideas. Uh, because at the same time of me sitting here saying, you know, my heart goes out to Vibretex because they may they seem to keep making this cool stuff that gets carbon copied. I'm hoping the feedback from Toy Chats that gets back to the manufacturers inspires more innovation.

SPEAKER_01: 45:49

I'll tell you what we get asked about the most, and Murph and I is both aficionados and kind of snobby about our sex toys. Um, people get really upset when you spend, you've plunked down$225 for a sex toy, and then you get it home and you hate it, and there's no recourse. You're just out that$225. And Murph and I had both been in that situation before, too, where we're just like, God damn it, what a waste of money. Nothing most of the time you can't give it to your friend. Hopefully, you might have one or two friends you can say, hey, I cleaned this if you want to try it. But it that's where people get really salty, speaking of being salty.

SPEAKER_04: 46:23

Well, and again, that's why I throw so many endorsements on Maya, like a kitten, sports sheets, because through those lifetime warranties, now is that covered? No, I probably not. I don't think so. Um, but I do know that that line of communication is open to the company where you would probably have a better chance getting a replacement of something that you didn't like. Um I don't think anybody will ever get a refund on a sex toy, nor nor should you ask for one. I think that's bad form in the game. Uh uh bad general karma, so to say. Uh but you know, if if there's other options with a company and they're willing to talk to you, you should at least try. And that that's why I I like supporting those companies that at least have the line of communication open with a lifetime warranty or something like that.

SPEAKER_03: 47:16

Right.

SPEAKER_01: 47:16

Yeah. Well, you know what I've seen, some brands will do, give you like a they'll give you like a 50% off, they'll they'll sell the next item to you, even though you already spent you 225. They'll say, here's 50% off an item, you can buy it from us directly, and we'll give you this discount.

SPEAKER_02: 47:29

If we, if if you had the ability to say to the company, listen, it just didn't work for me. Like there's been things where it's like uh just because of my body type, it's not gonna work. And I didn't realize that purchasing it. And it's like, if you could give me a brand new one that I can give to a friend, like we're good, you know, like something like that, I would consider a great, you know, option. Or like you said, a 50% off coupe on something where it's like, okay, I sp I dropped some cash on this, so give me something back for you know what it is that's just not gonna work for me.

SPEAKER_04: 48:00

A thousand percent. Um yeah, a thousand percent. That's a great workaround on a lifetime warranty. I don't know that they wanted us to crack that code, but that's definitely a a way to avoid waste.

SPEAKER_03: 48:16

Yeah. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04: 48:19

Those companies really don't have a lot of overhead on the on the lifetime warranties. Like it's a it's a pretty it's a pretty good advertisement to get away. Because really, at the end of the day, like how many times are you actually going to take advantage of that as a consumer?

SPEAKER_02: 48:32

Exactly. And and if you're the brand that has that kind of reputation, like I see your Liberator hat. For us, Liberator is one of those brands. If there's a problem, they're gonna fix it. Like, and that keeps you going back, not only because it's just quality stuff, but you're you recognize, like, okay, I'm putting my my hard-earned money towards a product that and a company that is going to respect that I'm spending that kind of money.

SPEAKER_04: 48:57

Liberator makes great products, they also make a great hat. I love this hat so much. This is one of my favorite hats, and I get so many compliments on it in public.

SPEAKER_01: 49:08

Do they know that you love that hat so much?

SPEAKER_04: 49:11

Uh yeah. Yeah, okay, too. Uh, I talk to Liberator every now and again. I'm not the closest with them. Oh no, I mean I wish. I've never gone after that personal sponsorship thing as much as I should have. A lot of the free toys that I get, I've re-given away or re-gifted as like trying to promote the company. So um Honey Playbox is one that's given me a lot of toys, and I made sure each and every one of those toys has gotten into somebody awesome's hands. Um I kind of went pro doing that with toy chats, if you think about it.

SPEAKER_01: 49:45

I mean, if people loved love to do drawings for sex toys, that's for sure. Yes, and literary furniture and all that stuff, they just will give any have here's my email. Enter me because they want they want that free sex toy stuff.

SPEAKER_02: 49:57

I put together a little basket for our uh fundraising event from all the little things that we've been you know received or you know got at the trade shows. And I tell you, the the person who won that basket, I could hear her scream from like four buildings away because she won and somebody told her and she was like, I want that sex basket. Like people are so amped for it, but we just don't we our culture has like dampened that, you know, like you're not supposed to say that in public. So, what's next for you? I mean, this brand new job. Um, you talked a little bit about what the company is gonna be doing next, but how about you?

SPEAKER_04: 50:33

I'm gonna keep on with Toy Chats. Um, always selling point of sale systems. That's honestly really good money that I'm not gonna give up anytime soon. Um uh I am part owner of a uh new nootropic company that's gonna be launching earlier 2026, maybe later this year. Um, we're almost there, so keep an eye out for that. Really excited for that. What's it called? I can't tell you yet.

SPEAKER_01: 51:01

Oh, oh, okay. He'd have to kill you.

SPEAKER_04: 51:04

But you'll see it. Um get sued by my partners. Um but I can tell you that much, and I can tell you stay tuned. Uh, other than that, um, just trying to write music more. That's always been my thing. Songwriter guy. You can stay in Vegas? I'm gonna stay in Vegas. I was looking at moving to Missouri for a while. Um, if I go anywhere, I'll be going to LA. Some guy wanted to throw me the uh keys to a hotel and turn it into degeneracy land. So whole resort out in the Lake of the Ozark so we can smoke weed in, throw swinger parties at, stuff like that. Yeah. Almost did that, but I really I don't want to leave Vegas. I love it here.

SPEAKER_01: 51:41

You like it, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 51:42

So yeah. I'll be kicking it in Vegas, running around. You can always catch me at almost any karaoke night in town. That's where people know my face here. Um, and selling dildos. Uh hopefully by the end of next year I'll have a retail store open, but they are really making that hard to want to do either in the smoke and vape or the adult world.

SPEAKER_01: 52:05

So even in Vegas.

SPEAKER_04: 52:07

Even in Vegas. I mean, we don't really have any privately owned sex stores out here. If you think about it, deja vu is a big chain, uh, Love Store's a big chain. Um, Romeo and Juliet's just landed out here. Uh Adam and Eve, we have a couple of those. We have a lion's den out here. Um but like the last, like the last mom and pop shop kind of thing that we had out here was a place called Love Toys A Lingerie. I'm obsessed with this story. Um it was recently bought out by the Fan 7 guys, but before that, there was I when I was working for the trade show, I called this store and I said, Hey, you should come out. And they're like, our owner's never in until six to midnight, six to midnight. So finally, off the clock, I get a hold of her, and we're talking, we're talking, and this girl's a badass, right? And she carries smoke and adults, so it's like, you gotta come to this show. And she's like, Do I have to be 21 to be there? What are you telling me right now? And she's like, I'm only 20 years old. I own this store to get me through college.

SPEAKER_01: 53:16

Wow, good for her.

SPEAKER_04: 53:18

I thought that was the coolest thing ever. Uh that's beautiful. So she, to my knowledge, was the last private owner in Vegas uh before selling out to Fan7, um, which I believe are the same owners as Callie's old store in Pennsylvania. I can't remember the name of it, but it's a really famous store in Pennsylvania. They do a lot of really taboo kinky shit.

SPEAKER_01: 53:46

Sweet. The weirdest thing about Las Vegas sounds strange, but as a person who grew up there, and my mom's been there since 1949, um, there's a lot of Mormons and sometimes very, very conservative. And um it's hard. Some things are really difficult to do there. And it's I don't I haven't lived there for a really long time, but I know there's still a lot of Mormons own a lot of the businesses around there, and they don't really like sex toys and liquor and that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_04: 54:12

Liquor Mormons don't like liquor. Fun fact about me um I lived in Ohio for two years before I moved out here, part of that getting my life together story. Um, Afroman was the person that told me to come out there. As soon as I got out there, they just closed me, ditched me, no job, nothing, left me on my ass. And I got taken in by a couple of Mormons and I lived with them for two years. I had an Uber driver take me somewhere. I was like, you know where I can rent a room? He's like, let me ask my wife. Um when I I I'm still close with them to this day. And when I got into back into the industry and they all realized I was a sex toy plug, I've had more requests for free samples from my Mormon church friends than I have from any of my secular uh friends. But no, Mormons are actually freaks. Um all they're all they're allowed to do is sex. So when there's a sex toy guy in the family, they're actually uh I haven't I haven't gotten any grief from them at all. Good, good. That's great ever. And then as far as uh as far as like the culture in Vegas, everybody seems to keep to themselves. Um I haven't had too much too many issues as far as that, like being in Vegas. I think when you're in Vegas, you're just Vegas. You know, and and you know it's all around you.

SPEAKER_01: 55:35

It's a hard place to to live if you have any addiction issues because everything's available 24 hours, three shifts a day, you know. It's like whew.

SPEAKER_04: 55:44

It is, but you can also see what it does. Yes, you're as an addict myself. That is something that I appreciate that keeps me sober. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Is you you can come to Vegas and you can see rock bottom looking you in the face.

SPEAKER_01: 55:59

And you you when you hit rock bottom there, it's really hard to get out because it's it takes a toll on you. It's it'd be just the weather alone, dry and hot, and it's it's mean, it can be a very mean place if you if you have a lot of addiction issues because there's just nowhere to hide from that heat and dryness, and people get really it's tricky sometimes. But anyway, we need to wrap things up because we've kept you for almost an hour and we love talking with you. And we're doing some more episodes about um robots and AI and dolls and things like that. So maybe we'll have to see if we can rope you into one of those conversations as well one of these days.

SPEAKER_04: 56:32

I will come talk to you guys anytime, any day. Try to give me a week notice.

SPEAKER_01: 56:39

Um we appreciate your time. We were so so happy we finally got to interview you. And if there's nothing else, um Murph, do you want to tell everybody where to find us? We'll have Cam tell everybody where to find them.

SPEAKER_02: 56:49

Yeah, so we're at BigSexy Chat on all the socials, and you can email us any of your thoughts or questions to big sexy chatpod at gmail.com. And Cam, where can they find you?

SPEAKER_04: 57:03

You can find Toy Chats at T-O-Y-C-H-A-T S on Instagram and most major platforms. Um, you can find me at versus underscore humanity, mainly on Instagram. Um, I do a little Facebook too, facebook.com slash Cam Jennings official, if you want to keep up on my work life. But uh the main place is going to be toychats.com because we are our own social media platform.

SPEAKER_01: 57:35

And if you're listening out in our community, our fat community, they're looking for more reviewers, they're paying$40 a review. That's a really cool side hustle. All you do is make a video about your favorite sex toys, and there you are, 40 bucks in your pocketbook or in your bank account. Awesome. Thank you, thank you so much, Cam. Thank you, Toy Chats. We're really excited to be in uh we'll say we're in bed with y'all right now. Yes.

SPEAKER_04: 57:58

Uh let's uh engage in bondage and other kinky stuff too.

SPEAKER_01: 58:04

Sounds great. All right, we'll see you later, alligator.

SPEAKER_02: 58:06

After a while, crocodile.

SPEAKER_04: 58:08

Let's say goodbye. I'm gonna go get hi.